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Old June 15th, 2010, 07:53 PM   #2141
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I don't understand why people see FIFA World Cup as sort of an entitlement. It is a FIFA event, so big and important that countries bid against each other to the "privilege" of hosting it.

Europeans countries already have a developed sport scene for soccer. They already have great stadia, great fan base etc. So it might make sense for FIFA to keep pushing its sports' frontier beyond.

As for attendance, the 94' World Cup still holds the absolute records for attendance so far and by large. The mere fact US has population > 300 mln. and large immigrant communities from many countries (communities that are wealthier than its average population) and so almost guarantee attendance.

As for the use of NFL stadia on World Cup, I don't see a big problem with the modern ones. Pitch dimensions are almost the same by the way.
If a country such as Germany, had 12 stadiums that could seat 60-90,000 people, they would sellout every match for a WC. Europe has a massive population, large immigrant communities and a solid transit network.
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Old June 15th, 2010, 08:01 PM   #2142
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That is correct, it is possible, the European population is strong and more importantly they care about football more than any other sport, so they love it and almost all matches would be full. I think USA's problem is no rail network, and long distances between cities.
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Old June 15th, 2010, 08:20 PM   #2143
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That is correct, it is possible, the European population is strong and more importantly they care about football more than any other sport, so they love it and almost all matches would be full. I think USA's problem is no rail network, and long distances between cities.
the lack of a rail network is easily overcome by our extensive interstate highway system and very cheap rental cars. You can get cars for less than $25 a day, way cheaper than buying train tickets
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the lack of a rail network is easily overcome by our extensive interstate highway system and very cheap rental cars. You can get cars for less than $25 a day, way cheaper than buying train tickets
You can also easily fly via a LCCs like Airtran or Southwest for as much as Eurostar costs; also, its faster.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 12:04 AM   #2145
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the lack of a rail network is easily overcome by our extensive interstate highway system and very cheap rental cars. You can get cars for less than $25 a day, way cheaper than buying train tickets
You have to rent a car for a period of time while you need a rail ticket just when you travel. In the end you're better off travelling by rail. If there were any.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 12:06 AM   #2146
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Old June 16th, 2010, 12:11 AM   #2147
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The United States should really consider Rail. Qatar is building rail links to neighboring countries and a Nation-wide Metro network.... all will be done by 2026 with the Metro network done by 2021.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 01:11 AM   #2148
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A nation-wide metro network is pretty easy to build when you're smaller than most large American cities...

But really it's cheap and fast to fly here in the USA using Southwest/Jetblue. And we do have amtrak and the northeast has acela or whatever lol. Hopefully California has its high speed rail line in place by 2022.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 01:13 AM   #2149
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We have more pressing problems/needs than high speed rails.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 01:39 AM   #2150
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That is correct, it is possible, the European population is strong and more importantly they care about football more than any other sport, so they love it and almost all matches would be full. I think USA's problem is no rail network, and long distances between cities.
They make these things called airplanes...
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Old June 16th, 2010, 01:42 AM   #2151
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The United States should really consider Rail. Qatar is building rail links to neighboring countries and a Nation-wide Metro network.... all will be done by 2026 with the Metro network done by 2021.
we have by far the largest rail network in the world so don't tell us we should consider rail. The the distances are so great that air travel is cheaper and can take 1/10th of the time.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 01:44 AM   #2152
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Long-run rail isn't looking to be profitable here anytime soon. We like our cars too much. I think its a freedom thing.

We also have long spans of sparsely populated areas, so a nation-wide network is iffy.

Either way, its not going to happen by 2022, and the WC won't be a driving force in it. Cars, shuttles, buses, flights are cheap enough just under normal circumstances. All-inclusive packages will be formed and marketed to each country for the group stage. There will be companies sponsoring buses from city-to-city catering to specific countries and their travel plans. Getting around the country cheaply won't be an issue.

If there is enough money to be made by someone, there will be plenty of cheap options.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 05:05 AM   #2153
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Transportation here is NEVER a problem.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 05:19 AM   #2154
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Transportation here is NEVER a problem.
Well here it would be more smooth, since all stadiums will be connected by Metro, Highways and some even by water transportation. you dont even need more than one airport for this country. (Micro World Cup)
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Old June 16th, 2010, 05:20 AM   #2155
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I think USA's problem is no rail network, and long distances between cities.
Visiting a host of diverse cities and regions regions is part of the fun of traveling and exploring. As opposed to going to a single sand trap of an island 50x100 miles with one medium sized metro.

The US has the most comprehensive air network in the world, it would do just fine.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 05:49 AM   #2156
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Well here it would be more smooth, since all stadiums will be connected by Metro, Highways and some even by water transportation. you dont even need more than one airport for this country. (Micro World Cup)
That's because your country (11,437 km2) is smaller than New York City (17,405 km2) for goodness sake. You can fly around the US for next-to-nothing!
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Old June 16th, 2010, 07:16 AM   #2157
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You can not even compare Qatar against USA or Australia in size and infrastructure. As was pointed out, Qatar is smaller than many cities in each country. Building a train network in Qatar is like a drop in the ocean compared to what the other 2 countries would need to invest to get High-speed rail links set up. In Australia for instance, there have been numerous proposals to build a high speed rail link from Melbourne, through Canberra, up to Sydney and through to Brisbane. A total distance of around 1600 kms. Even the Melbourne/Sydney part would cost over $50 billion dollars at min. Try selling that as a viable deal to taxpayers.

As has been said, Planes, cars, buses and existing train services will handle the demand easily for the USA and Australia.

Qatar Son 333, trying to claim that a higher ground for your country on everything really is losing you any credibility you may have had. Numerous statements are being made with little thought to the reasons why things are as they are, which really do not go down well with others.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 07:47 AM   #2158
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Let's be honest. Qatar has virtually no shot at 2022. It's like the Indonesia bid. Cool idea, but never a legitimate threat. USA v Australia take your pick.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #2159
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Let's be honest. Qatar has virtually no shot at 2022. It's like the Indonesia bid. Cool idea, but never a legitimate threat. USA v Australia take your pick.
If this was Facebook I would "like" this. If this was Twitter I would retweet it. If it was real life, I would say, "That sounds about right." Since it's the interwebs, I'll just say "this."
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Old June 16th, 2010, 11:03 PM   #2160
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Well here it would be more smooth, since all stadiums will be connected by Metro, Highways and some even by water transportation. you dont even need more than one airport for this country. (Micro World Cup)
Qatar is the size of Connecticut. Doha has about the same amount of people as Long Beach, California (a SUBURB of Los Angeles). It would amaze me if a country that small DIDN'T have any sort of public transportation.

The 2018 World Cup will go to Australia and 2022 will go to the US. Period.
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