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Old June 16th, 2010, 11:17 PM   #2161
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Qatar is the size of Connecticut. Doha has about the same amount of people as Long Beach, California (a SUBURB of Los Angeles). It would amaze me if a country that small DIDN'T have any sort of public transportation.

The 2018 World Cup will go to Australia and 2022 will go to the US. Period.
Wrong. Australia aren't bidding for 2018 any longer, which is almost certain to go to Europe.

2022 is, I believe, between the US and Australia although Qatar, Japan, and Korea are also bidding.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 11:42 PM   #2162
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Who from Europe is bidding for 2018?
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Old June 17th, 2010, 12:03 AM   #2163
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England and Russia are the two main candidates. IMO Russia is the favored bid, as the English didn't do anything to help themselves after Treisman's slick move.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 01:28 AM   #2164
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No more football passionless countries to host the world cup, Australia , USA ect
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Old June 17th, 2010, 01:30 AM   #2165
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Who from Europe is bidding for 2018?
England; Spain-Portugal; Belgium-Holland; USSR Russia !!
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Old June 17th, 2010, 01:47 AM   #2166
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No more football passionless countries to host the world cup, Australia , USA ect
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Old June 17th, 2010, 02:28 AM   #2167
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I really hope this is sarcasm.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 02:52 AM   #2168
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Doesn't seem like many people in the states know about/use Amtrak, but I have a feeling that if we get the World Cup, it will be a terrific option for getting from city to city without flying, and possibly less costly especially if the host cities are split into regional pods. Not really conducive to most Americans' travel needs (usually we only have one destination, so we fly), but for those who are just going to be city-hopping and either are used to traveling by train or just don't like the hassle of flying, Amtrak is perfect. And we have actually have a pretty extensive network if you've ever tried it.

But honestly, renting a car in this country is so easy and inexpensive, it's a really good option that offers more flexibility.


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Old June 17th, 2010, 04:03 AM   #2169
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Doesn't seem like many people in the states know about/use Amtrak, but I have a feeling that if we get the World Cup, it will be a terrific option for getting from city to city without flying, and possibly less costly especially if the host cities are split into regional pods. Not really conducive to most Americans' travel needs (usually we only have one destination, so we fly), but for those who are just going to be city-hopping and either are used to traveling by train or just don't like the hassle of flying, Amtrak is perfect. And we have actually have a pretty extensive network if you've ever tried it.

But honestly, renting a car in this country is so easy and inexpensive, it's a really good option that offers more flexibility.
The only route I know people have taken is from KC to STL and it can take 5-6 hours on amtrak but only 3 hours to drive and its cheaper to drive.
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If this was Facebook I would "like" this. If this was Twitter I would retweet it. If it was real life, I would say, "That sounds about right." Since it's the interwebs, I'll just say "this."
Well we do have

No, wait, wrong sign. I got it here somewhere, oh... there it is
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No, wait, wrong sign. I got it here somewhere, oh... there it is
Convenient!
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Old June 17th, 2010, 09:53 AM   #2172
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Wyoming and South Dakota always seem to get left out

The US bid is a strong one, with the existing stadiums and large, well known cities hosting games. Still shocks me that Chicago is not part of the bid though and many smaller cities are proposed as possible hosts. I would have thought leaving out a city of over 6 million people would have been seen as a big negative in the eyes of FIFA, with so much potential market, both commercially and fan based support.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 03:32 PM   #2173
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the US bid is one as an Australian I am truly worried about.

the combination of pre-existing stadium, excellent accommodation and logistics, and prospect of fantastic finances makes it a bloody strong bid
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Old June 17th, 2010, 04:26 PM   #2174
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the US bid is one as an Australian I am truly worried about.

the combination of pre-existing stadium, excellent accommodation and logistics, and prospect of fantastic finances makes it a bloody strong bid
The fact that Australia has never hosted may even that out I think.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 04:54 PM   #2175
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The fact that Australia has never hosted may even that out I think.
I thinks it's the only thing going for us against the USA.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 07:20 PM   #2176
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the US bid is one as an Australian I am truly worried about.

the combination of pre-existing stadium, excellent accommodation and logistics, and prospect of fantastic finances makes it a bloody strong bid
Either way, I think that they are both strong bids. To the point where if one doesn't win in 2018, they'll get it in 2022.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 09:16 PM   #2177
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"16 years ago" will turn into "28 years ago" by kickoff.

It makes that argument seem a lot less powerful. IMO
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Old June 17th, 2010, 11:07 PM   #2178
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Let's face it: we have the capacity and the ability to host the World Cup, the Olympics, the Super Bowl, World Series, and anything else simultaneously. Politics is the only reason we would be denied. It always boils down to politics.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 11:14 PM   #2179
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Let's face it: we have the capacity and the ability to host the World Cup, the Olympics, the Super Bowl, World Series, and anything else simultaneously. Politics is the only reason we would be denied. It always boils down to politics.
That's an pretty arrogant and US-centric point of view to be honest.

The US obviously has the technical capability to host a bigger tournament than most. That doesn't mean they should be automatic favourites every time they decide they fancy the tournament, especially if there are other very good bids competing against them.

There are plenty of other explanations other than "politics" as to why FIFA might choose a bid other than the United States'.

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Old June 18th, 2010, 12:25 AM   #2180
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But what is said is true, give me just an example in why the US should not get it, beside that the USA gosted the WC in 94..
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