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Old June 20th, 2010, 11:24 PM   #2261
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And for your information, yes American stadiums are bigger. The average capacity of our bid is about 77,000.
England's average capacity is about 60,000 (Wembley 90,000 Twickenham 80,000 Emirates 60,000 Old Trafford 70,000 etc.)
This is not really bad for a country with 50,000,000 inh!
And - England is the home of the game!
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Old June 20th, 2010, 11:28 PM   #2262
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England's average capacity is about 60,000 (Wembley 90,000 Twickenham 80,000 Emirates 60,000 Old Trafford 70,000 etc.)
This is not really bad for a country with 50,000,000 inh!
And - England is the home of the game!
50,000,000? Wow, that's like half a Mexico!
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Old June 20th, 2010, 11:38 PM   #2263
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I think we could see Los Angeles host the Final. Neither the Coliseum nor the Rose Bowl are in condition to host a World Cup match and it's highly doubtful they get the necessary improvements. They really don't want to host without LA so I wouldn't be shocked if they dangle the possibility of a World Cup Final in front of prospective stadiums to help get it built. If the stadium that is built is the downtown one proposed by AEG, I think they will definitely host because of AEG and Anschutz's pull in the USSF.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 11:38 PM   #2264
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Why are we even comparing? The US, whilst still technically in the 2018 race, is really competing with Qatar, Australia, Japan, and South Korea for 2022.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 11:41 PM   #2265
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Why are we even comparing? The US, whilst still technically in the 2018 race, is really competing with Qatar, Australia, Japan, and South Korea for 2022.
Exactly. There is no reason why the US should want the 2018 WC.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 11:42 PM   #2266
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Why are we even comparing? The US, whilst still technically in the 2018 race, is really competing with Qatar, Australia, Japan, and South Korea for 2022.
Agreed. Keep the English stuff out of this, no matter how "pure" their football culture is.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 01:20 AM   #2267
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You're either a narrow-minded Brit or a narrow-minded Anglophile.
You're wrong with both guesses. Expressing a dissenting opinion doesn't make me narrow-minded. Nor a Brit.

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BTW, this is not the thread to discuss the European/mostly British "roof complex", but I will say Spanish and Italian fans seem to manage quite fine without roofs. It's called "thinking outside the box", my friend. You happen to be stuck in it right now.
The only ones who have a complex with stadium roofs seem to be Americans. Spanish and Italian grounds are very well covered as far as they could afford it. There are in fact very few seats of modern stadium developments in these countries or elsewhere in the world that are not covered.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 01:33 AM   #2268
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The only ones who have a complex with stadium roofs seem to be Americans. Spanish and Italian grounds are very well covered as far as they could afford it. There are in fact very few seats of modern stadium developments in these countries or elsewhere in the world that are not covered.
Good for them!
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Old June 21st, 2010, 01:54 AM   #2269
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Why are there crappy pictures of The New Den and the tidiest section of the soon to be demolished WHL in this thread ?
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Old June 21st, 2010, 02:48 AM   #2270
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I don't know. Something to do with America stadiums sucking.

Anyhoo, a downtown stadium in LA would be perfect for the WC. Close down Nokia Plaza and turn it into a huge fan fest.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 03:33 AM   #2271
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I don't know. Something to do with America stadiums sucking.

Anyhoo, a downtown stadium in LA would be perfect for the WC. Close down Nokia Plaza and turn it into a huge fan fest.
The proposed stadium would be on the site of the current Convention Center West Hall. It would be across the street from Staples Center, the Convention Center, LA Live and right in the middle of downtown. It would cause problems with the space around the stadium that FIFA likes to have blocked off, but with all of the convention space and banquet rooms, etc. in the area, the hospitality stuff is taken care of.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 03:41 AM   #2272
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I think firefly is quite the lost cause in convincing him/her of the merits of a US bid. It's just feeding a troll.

Regardless, I'm all for it, the sport has done nothing but grown and will continue to do so. The rate of growth is debatable but it is a fact that it has grown and you can tell that the interest and passion has expanded even since the last world cup. The real place for improvement is just typical seasons in the MLS. The fact that major fixtures in the Champions League are even on the TV here is quite the development in my view, and the Euro tournaments are televised here as well. Less than 10 years ago I don't think that was the case.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 04:34 AM   #2273
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You're wrong with both guesses. Expressing a dissenting opinion doesn't make me narrow-minded. Nor a Brit.
It's not the expression that makes you narrow minded, it's the narrow minded ignorant content.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 04:36 AM   #2274
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It's not the expression that makes you narrow minded, it's the narrow minded ignorant content.
Yeah!
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Old June 21st, 2010, 06:23 AM   #2275
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England's average capacity is about 60,000 (Wembley 90,000 Twickenham 80,000 Emirates 60,000 Old Trafford 70,000 etc.)
This is not really bad for a country with 50,000,000 inh!
And - England is the home of the game!
English Rugby Union wont let soccer play in Twickenham stadium
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Old June 21st, 2010, 09:24 AM   #2276
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Not a bad thing, keep twickenham for a real mans game only.
Nah, soccer, you ok.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 10:09 AM   #2277
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I would bet that the Rose Bowl gets some games for the historical value.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:29 AM   #2278
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I would bet that the Rose Bowl gets some games for the historical value.
Without the necessary luxury suites, press box, technological needs, safe egress from the seats and a a large percentage of seats still benches? Oh yeah, all of this without any future of major renovation. They plan on improving the luxury seating, but the rest of the problems and many more still stand without any method to raise the funds to fix them. It's highly unlikely that the Rose Bowl hosts a World Cup match.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 05:29 PM   #2279
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I could have sworn there were planned renovations for the stadium. Maybe I was wrong.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 06:05 PM   #2280
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There are plans to renovate the Rose Bowl. As well as the LA Coliseum. Plus there is a new proposed stadium in the City of Industry as well as an idea of putting a retractable roofed stadium on top of the West Hall of the LA Convention Center.
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