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Old June 24th, 2010, 01:17 AM   #2341
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Personally I'd say a 30 year minimum gap.

To add to the roofs vs no roofs argument, the atmosphere is completely different. The intensity of singing is totally lost without a roof. Following on with the Millwall theme:

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Old June 24th, 2010, 01:19 AM   #2342
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28 years is soon?
Remember the UK have been waiting 44 years and counting (52 if they get 2018)
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Old June 24th, 2010, 01:24 AM   #2343
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I guess people in Green Bay for e.g. would like a European style stadium.
NO!
We Packers fans are the ones who take there shirts off at games when it goes below freezing and cheer when it snows. Lambeau Field has been 100% sold out for every game since the late 1960's. Also there is a 100+ year long waiting list for season tickets, which is very famous.
The stadium, renovated from top to bottom in 2003, is considered among the best gameday experiences on continent.

















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Old June 24th, 2010, 01:26 AM   #2344
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Old June 24th, 2010, 01:41 AM   #2345
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No more pics/comparison of English stadiums please. We don't care and it's not the forum.
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Old June 24th, 2010, 01:49 AM   #2346
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USA can make major result here, even to the finals, as road to semis is opened

so good result here can be decisive... I hope that will happen, and in December Blatter will announce us as WC hosts
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Old June 24th, 2010, 02:04 AM   #2347
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USA can make major result here, even to the finals, as road to semis is opened

so good result here can be decisive... I hope that will happen, and in December Blatter will announce us as WC hosts
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Old June 24th, 2010, 02:40 AM   #2348
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NFL stadia are interesting. While they're very impressive, I'm surprised (judging by the pictures supplied above), by how little overhead cover there is. For a winter sport, it seems strange that a lot of the stadiums don't have roofs that at least cover the public.

Is that an issue with fans? Or something that just historically/culturally has no importance to fans?
football is played during the fall so you don't have the summer sun or the spring rain to deal with usually. Very few football games are affected by weather and when its colder out the sun actually feels good. Plus teams that play in domes are for pussies.
The only stadiums that the average US sports fan doesn't mind having a full roof is phoenix(due to being in the dessert), and Seattle/Miami for baseball(due to baseball not playing in the rain), and thats it. Outdoor sports are meant to be played outdoors.
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Old June 24th, 2010, 02:56 AM   #2349
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Remember the UK have been waiting 44 years and counting (52 if they get 2018)
That was because Europe hosted 5 times since '66.
NA has not hosted once since '94.
Europe had hosted in 2006 and vieing for 2018 - 12 yrs.
Going by this, 28 yrs for NA is much longer.
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Old June 24th, 2010, 02:57 AM   #2350
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No more pics/comparison of English stadiums please. We don't care and it's not the forum.
+1 Pls may post in england bid forum
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Old June 24th, 2010, 03:43 AM   #2351
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Those college stadiums are huge, but let's see you fill them for Slovakia vs New Zealand...

How the USA deserves another world cup so soon after 1994 is beyond me but I guess that's another debate altogether.
Hey, Mexico got two within 16 years ...
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Old June 24th, 2010, 03:53 AM   #2352
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That was because Europe hosted 5 times since '66.
NA has not hosted once since '94.
Europe had hosted in 2006 and vieing for 2018 - 12 yrs.
Going by this, 28 yrs for NA is much longer.
The one issue I have with your post is just North America is made up of relatively few countries who could realistically host the World Cup. Mexico and the U.S. are the only options really, maybe Canada at a pinch.

Compare that to Europe where you have England, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, all of which could host the World Cup. Not to mention smaller countries in combined bids like the Belgium/Holland bid, or even Portugal.

To say North America has had to wait much longer is just lumping in the European nations into one collective pot, and by your logic implies that the U.S./Mexico seems entitled to the World Cup more regularly than European nations.
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Old June 24th, 2010, 03:54 AM   #2353
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Hey, Mexico got two within 16 years ...
I thought there were mitigating circumstances behind that though (forget the reason, think issues with another city)
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Colombia was suppose to host the 1986 World Cup, but then they realized that they couldn't afford to stage it, so the Colombians gave it up. So Mexico stepped in as back-up.

I personally don't care too much about the World Cup, but I don't think that it's too much for the U.S. to go after it again 28 years since their last time (especially when the sport has grown a bit in the U.S. since then). Germany got it again only 32 years after their first hosting.
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Old June 24th, 2010, 05:52 AM   #2355
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Remember the UK have been waiting 44 years and counting (52 if they get 2018)
They should have better bids/build better stadiums then. In 2022 I bet a lot of the players who are stars on the USMNT won't have been alive in 1994.
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Old June 24th, 2010, 05:58 AM   #2356
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They should have better bids/build better stadiums then. In 2022 I bet a lot of the players who are stars on the USMNT won't have been alive in 1994.
Personally I don't think 28 years is a deal breaker, but it is on the tighter end of the scale (esp when competing against Qatar and Australia who are yet to host).

As said previously, the fantastic facilities, logistics, and accommodation (and of course revenues) more than compensate for this.
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Old June 24th, 2010, 06:26 AM   #2357
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The one issue I have with your post is just North America is made up of relatively few countries who could realistically host the World Cup. Mexico and the U.S. are the only options really, maybe Canada at a pinch.

Compare that to Europe where you have England, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, all of which could host the World Cup. Not to mention smaller countries in combined bids like the Belgium/Holland bid, or even Portugal.

To say North America has had to wait much longer is just lumping in the European nations into one collective pot, and by your logic implies that the U.S./Mexico seems entitled to the World Cup more regularly than European nations.
It's not so much about the honor of hosting as it is the chance to see live matches easily. Even in a region with 7.3 million people (and a founding MLS city), I'm still about 6 hours from the nearest proposed venue in Los Angeles. By comparison, London is a similar distance from cities that hosted in 1998 and 2006.
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Old June 24th, 2010, 07:32 AM   #2358
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Personally I'd say a 30 year minimum gap.

To add to the roofs vs no roofs argument, the atmosphere is completely different. The intensity of singing is totally lost without a roof. Following on with the Millwall theme:

Not saying that they don't amplify crowd noise, but I don't think they're a total necessity:

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Old June 24th, 2010, 07:49 AM   #2359
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Real fans don't need a roof to amplify sound.
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Old June 24th, 2010, 08:55 AM   #2360
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USA can make major result here, even to the finals, as road to semis is opened

so good result here can be decisive... I hope that will happen, and in December Blatter will announce us as WC hosts
I don't think it should matter much. As long as a team can show it belongs in the field of 32 and can play competive games that is all that is needed. Something I think both US and Australia showed and only a few nations in the tourney haven't.

If the US team gets far in the field should be made a seperate issues. It is hard to predict where a program will be twelve years off anyway.
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