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Old July 30th, 2010, 08:59 AM   #2521
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If the US Soccer team would ever make a national stadium it would be Columbus. We're perfect there, and the stadium has historical significance.
Um, a national stadium is supposed to be in the capital...
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Old July 30th, 2010, 09:27 AM   #2522
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Um, a national stadium is supposed to be in the capital...
Doesn't have to.

Columbus is probably the only city (well, besides Salt Lake) where the USA would actually be the home team against Mexico.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 09:46 AM   #2523
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Doesn't have to.

Columbus is probably the only city (well, besides Salt Lake) where the USA would actually be the home team against Mexico.
I'd feel more optimism for this if the Crew support levels suggested this advantage could be applied in a 60k plus venue.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 10:23 AM   #2524
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Excuse my ignorance, why would Columbus a top candidate for a national stadium?

I think a DC stadium would make a good candidate but I think NYC could also make a case. Or perhaps a central location like St. Louis, Kansas City, Denver, or Chicago (only because it is the home of the US soccer federation, which isn't much of a reason IMO). Or if you weather is decisive factor then perhaps LA or San Diego.

When I mentioned a national stadium in D.C. though I was thinking more an all purpose stadium for football, soccer, etc.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 01:49 PM   #2525
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I think he was being facetious and simply playing off the fact the US has used Columbus as a haven for playing Mexico wherein the US fans will actually outnumber the fans for El Tri.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 02:23 PM   #2526
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I think he was being facetious and simply playing off the fact the US has used Columbus as a haven for playing Mexico wherein the US fans will actually outnumber the fans for El Tri.
Give the Arizona law som time, and this might change throughout the country...


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Old July 30th, 2010, 05:07 PM   #2527
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Excuse my ignorance, why would Columbus a top candidate for a national stadium?

I think a DC stadium would make a good candidate but I think NYC could also make a case. Or perhaps a central location like St. Louis, Kansas City, Denver, or Chicago (only because it is the home of the US soccer federation, which isn't much of a reason IMO). Or if you weather is decisive factor then perhaps LA or San Diego.

When I mentioned a national stadium in D.C. though I was thinking more an all purpose stadium for football, soccer, etc.
Because in all of those cities Mexicans and Hondurans will invade the stadium and dominate the stadium while Columbus has been the biggest home advantage for us. Also it's the first major soccer specific stadium built in this country.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 05:20 PM   #2528
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I think is a bit premature for US to host 2018 since you guys hosted '94 WC.
Following the FIFA continental rotation 'vision', I'd vote for Russia 2018 and yea, USA 2022.
But of course, all up to the best bidder.

Hey guys, we need to get the US team a nickname. The Brazilians are known as "A Selecao" (that c being pronounced with the sound of s), the italians "Azurra", the spanish "Furia Espaniola", I guess the germans "Deutsche Mannschaft", even the aussies got one "The Socceroos", haha cool!
C'mon, what'd be the US national team called when getting in the field or scoring a goal?
I go with, "The Star Spangled Boys", haha

Go for it, kidSss!
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We're the Yanks. It's established.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 06:23 PM   #2530
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Isn't it a bit divisive? Don't you think that the southern dudes will kinda have a problem with it, haha?

Yanks, sounds good to me!
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This won't be an issue in the US.

And I think it benefits the US to have as many cities represented as it can.
It wouldn't. How would it benefit the U.S. to have say 18 or 19 cites? The U.S. is a lot larger than Korea and Japan and that would make travel even more annoying.

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Doesn't have to.

Columbus is probably the only city (well, besides Salt Lake) where the USA would actually be the home team against Mexico.
Nothing says America to world like wonderful Columbus, OH. Give me a break, it would be a complete joke to have the national stadium located in such a small and insignificant second class city, maybe even 3rd class. If we were to ever get a national stadium, which we won't, it would either be in Washington, D.C., or a large significant city, like New York, Chicago, Boston, Los Angeles, etc.
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Isn't it a bit divisive? Don't you think that the southern dudes will kinda have a problem with it, haha?
Any southerner familiar with the sport understands the context.
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Give me a break, it would be a complete joke to have the national stadium located in such a small and insignificant second class city, maybe even 3rd class. If we were to ever get a national stadium, which we won't, it would either be in Washington, D.C., or a large significant city, like New York, Chicago, Boston, Los Angeles, etc.
I'm quite sure he was being sarcastic. And if he wasn't then he needn't be taken seriously.
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How would it benefit the U.S. to have say 18 or 19 cites?
More Americans would have the opportunity to see a game. Simple as that. Also, the excitement would be nationwide, rather than just regional.
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Old July 31st, 2010, 12:38 PM   #2535
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...Following the FIFA continental rotation 'vision', I'd vote for Russia 2018 and yea, USA 2022....
Acording to FIFA, they scrapped the rotation after South Africa.
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Old July 31st, 2010, 01:18 PM   #2536
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Any southerner familiar with the sport understands the context.
They'll still not like it. It has a context. People get mad when football is called soccer here. Alabama Joe might not like to be referred to as a 'Yank'.
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They'll still not like it. It has a context. People get mad when football is called soccer here. Alabama Joe might not like to be referred to as a 'Yank'.
They'll need to get over it and support the USMNT.
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Old July 31st, 2010, 06:04 PM   #2538
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They'll need to get over it and support the USMNT.
So, just because a southener dosen't like if the team is called Yanks, then he's not a USMNT-supporter? Thats crazy talk...
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Old July 31st, 2010, 06:18 PM   #2539
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America is the perfect country to host the WC. No matter what anyone may tell you, NO country on earth can compete with America as far as stadiums, hotels, attractions, etc. are conserned.


It's this idiotic anti-American feeling around the world which backwards people have that keeps this great country from hosting these events.



They gave the Olympics to Rio De Jeneiro (a city filled with crime) in 2016 OVER Chicago even though Brazil is HOSTING the WC in 2014

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Old July 31st, 2010, 07:44 PM   #2540
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America is the perfect country to host the WC. No matter what anyone may tell you, NO country on earth can compete with America as far as stadiums, hotels, attractions, etc. are conserned.


It's this idiotic anti-American feeling around the world which backwards people have that keeps this great country from hosting these events.
I'm European but I have entirely NO anti-American feeling. To me such anti-feelings unveil exactly what those anti-people say about Americans: some kind of privincialism, ignorance and dishonesty.


I agree with your first point: America has stadiums, hotels, attractions etc like almost no other.

I see there, if any, just one point against: I would like to be sure that the hosting nation could reach at least quarterfinals - or to be really likely to win the WC!. I'm sure, that there is a real chance, that one day America will really compete with the best teams in the world. But will this be already in 2018?
After all, this is no knockout-argument for even nations like Italy, Spain, Germany, England, Brazil or Argentina could stumble in first round. So it is a risk, no matter which nation hosts. Nevertheless the US-team is more likely to fail.

So, i would prefer to see the WC in 2022 or 2026 in America when, hopefully, the new generation of US-players have had an optimal professional education from their early years on.

Remember what happened in SA, when Bafana Bafana left the tournament that early.

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