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Old September 16th, 2010, 02:08 AM   #2641
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why is it always New York? why cant the WC Finals be in miami? dolphins stadium is too old.. time for a new stadium in miami.. were gonna build a better one then dallas..
Because NYC is the most prominent city in the United States.

Also, I doubt Miami will be building a new stadium for the Dolphins, let alone one that beats Cowboys Stadium (that would take well over $1 Billion USD). We just forked over a TON of tax payer dollars for the Marlins new ballpark. Besides, Sun Life was built in the late 1980s and is hardly old. They will carry out the simple improvements and the stadium will be around for another 20-25 years.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 02:51 AM   #2642
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why is it always New York? .
Because of the population numbers; because the media have global facilities already in the major cities and capitals like New York.

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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:09 AM   #2643
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why is it always New York? why cant the WC Finals be in miami? dolphins stadium is too old.. time for a new stadium in miami.. were gonna build a better one then dallas..


You're not getting a new stadium, especially not one better than Dallas. You're getting a revamped stadium with an open roof.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:23 AM   #2644
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He just speaks the truth. What is wrong with that? Has being PC killed all honesty?
Probably because he's not speaking the truth.

First of all, if you go to a US soccer match in the US, the racial breakdown is not nearly as Hispanic as many would like you to believe. Whites still make up the majority there, at least among the US supporters.

Second, Georgia has a Hispanic population that makes up nearly 10% of the population and it's rapidly growing.

Third, they've reasonably drawn well when they have gotten soccer matches.

Fourth, the notion that a city needs a MLS franchise as evidence of soccer support was debunked forever this summer when Miami, San Diego, Norfolk, West Palm Beach, Las Vegas and Baltimore all ranked in the top 10 in TV ratings for World Cup broadcasts, none of which have a MLS team. That was just for English. In Spanish, Miami, Las Vegas, San Antonio, Sacramento and Austin all ranked in the top 10, again all without MLS franchises. Oh yeah, Miami led in both languages.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 08:46 AM   #2645
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Wouldn't New York be best to get the final? Biggest city, quite a new stadium, lovely backdrop. Also the game could be played in the late afternoon or early evening, and still be at a good time in Europe.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 08:57 AM   #2646
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Wouldn't New York be best to get the final? Biggest city, quite a new stadium, lovely backdrop. Also the game could be played in the late afternoon or early evening, and still be at a good time in Europe.
Maybe, but Washington is also in the same time zones. I hate it when the final isn't played in the capital city. It just irks me.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 09:03 AM   #2647
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He just speaks the truth. What is wrong with that? Has being PC killed all honesty?
All you have to do is look at US national players over the years to see that the comment was ******* stupid, not just politically incorrect.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 09:25 AM   #2648
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Maybe, but Washington is also in the same time zones. I hate it when the final isn't played in the capital city. It just irks me.
Well I think that NY is the premier city in the US. Plus their isn't really a 'rule' to say that the final needs to be in the capital. SA hosted it in Joburg, not 1 of our 3 capital cities. 2002 was in Yokahama, not the capital, and 98 was technically in Saint Dennis, not Paris. Even the last US World Cup had the final in LA.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 11:57 AM   #2649
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Wouldn't New York be best to get the final? Biggest city, quite a new stadium, lovely backdrop. Also the game could be played in the late afternoon or early evening, and still be at a good time in Europe.
'New York's' stadium is in the Meadowlands in New Jersey.

Its Not:
- A pretty place
- Nor does it have a lovely backdrop. Prey it doesn't rain or is really hot that day.

A revamped Rose Bowl would be much more picturesque and offer more to see and do. California is one of the most scenic places on the entire planet, and the LA Basin has incredible weather. Besides, the U.S. is trying to impress who?
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Old September 16th, 2010, 12:16 PM   #2650
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Old September 16th, 2010, 12:29 PM   #2651
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'New York's' stadium is in the Meadowlands in New Jersey.

Its Not:
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- Nor does it have a lovely backdrop. Prey it doesn't rain or is really hot that day.

A revamped Rose Bowl would be much more picturesque and offer more to see and do. California is one of the most scenic places on the entire planet, and the LA Basin has incredible weather. Besides, the U.S. is trying to impress who?
Those Australian Eucalypts really do the job.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #2652
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'New York's' stadium is in the Meadowlands in New Jersey.

Its Not:
- A pretty place
- Nor does it have a lovely backdrop. Prey it doesn't rain or is really hot that day.

A revamped Rose Bowl would be much more picturesque and offer more to see and do. California is one of the most scenic places on the entire planet, and the LA Basin has incredible weather. Besides, the U.S. is trying to impress who?
Unfortunately a revamped Rose Bowl is out of the question. The stadium will undergo some renovations in the next few years, but they will serve to expand luxury seating and some ingress/egress issues. That will be about it. It will not address the rest of the stadium's issues and the City of Pasadena had to really stretch itself to get the money for what they are doing. The rest of the renovations necessary to meet FIFA guidelines will not be done.

If LA is to host, it will be either at the new stadium in Industry or in AEG's proposed downtown stadium, whichever is built. If it is Industry, I highly doubt that LA hosts the final. In fact, I would cross it off the list of possibilities.

If it's AEG's downtown stadium, it would be the favorite to host the final, in my opinion, and would do a fantastic job with it. It would be right in the middle of downtown so overhead shots would look great with the California sun, the skyscrapers, Staples Center, etc. A fan fest can even be held at the new park under construction downtown that would allow some fantastic overhead shots of the stadium, downtown and a fan fest all in one. A lot of the hotels for FIFA and everyone in LA would be within walking distance of the stadium, plus Staples Center and the Convention Center would be right next door for any other events to be put on around the final. Oh yeah, the stadium would seat 80,000 with a retractable roof. Not bad.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 05:46 PM   #2653
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Old September 16th, 2010, 05:59 PM   #2654
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Well I think that NY is the premier city in the US. Plus their isn't really a 'rule' to say that the final needs to be in the capital. SA hosted it in Joburg, not 1 of our 3 capital cities. 2002 was in Yokahama, not the capital, and 98 was technically in Saint Dennis, not Paris. Even the last US World Cup had the final in LA.
New York may be the premier city in the United States, but the IS isn't like a lot of small countries where they only have one real big city. You could pick a whole bunch of cities in the US to host the final.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 02:22 AM   #2655
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There are many possibilities for final hosts if the USA will be awarded a WC.

Opening game & final in one city

(more appealing and worldwide city)

1 NY
2 LA
3 Washington DC
4 Miami
5 Dallas

Opening game & final in two cities

NY & LA
Dallas & Miami
Washington DC & LA
Dallas & NY
NY & Washington DC
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Old September 17th, 2010, 02:48 AM   #2656
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I doubt anybody else will agree with this but I think a good idea for opening game is Kansas City. It is in the heartland and is the type of city that represents what the USA is all about. The geographical center of the US is in Kansas, the population center is in Missouri, so the city on the border of those two states is about the most middle of america you can get.
-just my thoughts. (and yes I'm a biased Missourian)

They did do a pretty good job with the opening celebrations at this weeks game.



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Old September 17th, 2010, 09:47 AM   #2657
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I doubt anybody else will agree with this but I think a good idea for opening game is Kansas City. It is in the heartland and is the type of city that represents what the USA is all about. The geographical center of the US is in Kansas, the population center is in Missouri, so the city on the border of those two states is about the most middle of america you can get.
-just my thoughts. (and yes I'm a biased Missourian)

They did do a pretty good job with the opening celebrations at this weeks game.


I disagree. I am going for Tulsa for Openers and the Closing in Tijuana.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 09:52 AM   #2658
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Kansas City needs to worry about getting to host any matches, let alone the opener. They're far from a sure thing to host any matches, assuming the US wins the bid.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 01:57 AM   #2659
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Not nice. Not nice at all.
Lol typical americans having a period when it comes to talking about race. The South sould be looking like Brazil or the Dominican Republic by now. It is indeed a shame.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 01:59 AM   #2660
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Kansas City might not even get a game, let alone the opener
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