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Old September 26th, 2010, 09:24 AM   #2721
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actually this could be a major issue.

if you are an ex-co delegate, would you want to reward Warner if he is campaigning for your confed to lose a WC slot?

Mike, any reports on which confed Warner is suggesting should lose its slot to CONCACAF?
Reports suggest Africa at the moment due to their poor performance at the 2010 World Cup. It almost certainly won't be South America or Asia so he's going to either annoy a) Africa 4 votes or b) Europe 8 votes. I think Africa is the safe bet.

Warner, who also reassured Fifa president Joseph Sepp Blatter of Concacaf’s continued support as he seeks re-election to Fifa’s highest office, said, “Our members made it very clear today that we need four places and our region is united behind this position. I think we have paid our dues and we have showed that we can stand right up there with the best in the world and therefore we will go to Fifa with the hope of getting the fourth spot at the World Cup Finals,” Warner said.

The Fifa Executive Committee will definitely take a closer look at the possibility of a fourth spot for Concacaf, said Blatter

http://guardian.co.tt/sports/footbal...s-4-spots-2014
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Old September 26th, 2010, 09:42 AM   #2722
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Agree on Asia, and South America fighting for its slot cost Oceania getting its guaranteed slot, so I agree they will be an unlikely target

that leaves Africa and Europe, both whom have critical votes to decide 2022

I know the timing is about Blatter's re-election, but I agree this is the last thing the USA bid would want to be muddying the waters
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Old September 26th, 2010, 09:48 AM   #2723
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Most likely from CAF.

Giving CONCACAF 4 spots is ludicrous IMO. There are only 2 teams in the confederation that are decent. But anyway, that's for another thread.
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Old September 26th, 2010, 10:03 AM   #2724
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Most likely from CAF.

Giving CONCACAF 4 spots is ludicrous IMO. There are only 2 teams in the confederation that are decent. But anyway, that's for another thread.
no argument there mate, this is why I don't get this demand - timing is just all wrong, and its only gunna piss people off
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Old September 26th, 2010, 10:54 AM   #2725
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What a stupid thing to say. Everyone knows that Foster's comes in 25.4 oz oil cans.
It comes in both.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 01:17 AM   #2726
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Like what? Australia is every bit as multicultural as the US if that's what you mean.
No, you're not. How many Latinos do you have? The US has nearly 30 million which is MORE than the whole OZ population!! TOtal US pop is 300 milion, u're NOT even 1/10th of the US...so how can you have the same numbers?
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Old September 28th, 2010, 01:38 AM   #2727
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Agree on Asia, and South America fighting for its slot cost Oceania getting its guaranteed slot, so I agree they will be an unlikely target

that leaves Africa and Europe, both whom have critical votes to decide 2022

I know the timing is about Blatter's re-election, but I agree this is the last thing the USA bid would want to be muddying the waters
Keep CONCACAF at 3.5

Take away Asia's .5 and give it to South America (Uruguay, who came in 4th at WC, had to play a playoff...that's how strong SA is).

Have CONCACAF have a playoff with Oceania, Costa Rica/El Salvador/T&T are stronger than Bahrain.

So in the end you have:

Europe: 13 berths (6/13 teams advanced to second round in 2010)
South America: 5 berths (5/5 teams advanced to second round)
Africa: 5 berths (only ONE team out of six advanced)
Asia: 4 berths (2/4 teams advanced)
CONCACAF: 3.5 berths (2/3 teams advanced)
Oceania: 0.5 berths (0/1 but New Zealand impressed!)
Host: 1 berth
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Old September 28th, 2010, 01:44 AM   #2728
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Keep CONCACAF at 3.5

Take away Asia's .5 and give it to South America (Uruguay, who came in 4th at WC, had to play a playoff...that's how strong SA is).

Have CONCACAF have a playoff with Oceania, Costa Rica/El Salvador/T&T are stronger than Bahrain.

So in the end you have:

Europe: 13 berths (6/13 teams advanced to second round in 2010)
South America: 5 berths (5/5 teams advanced to second round)
Africa: 5 berths (only ONE team out of six advanced)
Asia: 4 berths (2/4 teams advanced)
CONCACAF: 3.5 berths (2/3 teams advanced)
Oceania: 0.5 berths (0/1 but New Zealand impressed!)
Host: 1 berth
I'd take it from Africa before anyone else. The fact that they get five bids for how poorly they've performed throughout their history is just plain stupid. I agree that CONMEBOL should get five sealed up, but I would take that half birth from Africa and let Africa and Asia battle it out with CONCACAF and Oceania in another playoff.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 04:02 AM   #2729
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They should just merge Oceania with Asia. Either that or divide Asia in half and add Oceania to east asia.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 01:59 PM   #2730
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No, you're not. How many Latinos do you have? The US has nearly 30 million which is MORE than the whole OZ population!! TOtal US pop is 300 milion, u're NOT even 1/10th of the US...so how can you have the same numbers?
Go back & read my post on the last page.....
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Old September 29th, 2010, 01:00 AM   #2731
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USA has come out swinging very quickly on the international legacy issue, with a promise to use the WC to fund a clean water campaign

http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=33754

very smart move, and great that they have been able to respond so quick with a decent program
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Old September 29th, 2010, 02:40 AM   #2732
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ok there was a news article today that said USA might pull out of the 2018 world cup bid and england might pull out of the 2022 big which I guess is being agreed mutually between both countries.
Now shoo away Qatar because this 2022 bid is between the oz and the americans
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Old September 29th, 2010, 02:56 AM   #2733
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Keep CONCACAF at 3.5

Take away Asia's .5 and give it to South America (Uruguay, who came in 4th at WC, had to play a playoff...that's how strong SA is).

Have CONCACAF have a playoff with Oceania, Costa Rica/El Salvador/T&T are stronger than Bahrain.

So in the end you have:

Europe: 13 berths (6/13 teams advanced to second round in 2010)
South America: 5 berths (5/5 teams advanced to second round)
Africa: 5 berths (only ONE team out of six advanced)
Asia: 4 berths (2/4 teams advanced)
CONCACAF: 3.5 berths (2/3 teams advanced)
Oceania: 0.5 berths (0/1 but New Zealand impressed!)
Host: 1 berth
Anything for more South American teams. Imagine if Ecuador,Venezuela or Colombia made the last world cup. So beautiful it would be. Just get rid of Oceanic divison they are mickey mouse and don't deserve their own region.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 05:09 AM   #2734
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Old September 29th, 2010, 05:16 AM   #2735
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USA has come out swinging very quickly on the international legacy issue, with a promise to use the WC to fund a clean water campaign

http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=33754

very smart move, and great that they have been able to respond so quick with a decent program
This is something that was in their bid book and was featured heavily, along with a couple other international legacy things. My guess is that they didn't talk about it much on the tour of the country, which is why the comments about an international legacy came out. You'd think the man leading the tour would have gone through the bid book himself, but this is FIFA we're talking about.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 03:45 AM   #2736
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Anything for more South American teams. Imagine if Ecuador,Venezuela or Colombia made the last world cup. So beautiful it would be. Just get rid of Oceanic divison they are mickey mouse and don't deserve their own region.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 04:29 AM   #2737
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2002 ASIA Korea-Japan

2006 EUROPE Germany

2010 AFRICA South Africa

2014 SOUTH AMERICA Brasil


2018 EUROPE England

2022 NORTH AMERICA United States


In my opinion, this is the best way. A good rotation: first Europe, then 2 World Cups in another continent and then Europe again.

As someone else said: They should merge Oceania with Asia.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 04:37 AM   #2738
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Agree with Oceania and Asia merge, but not with the rest - long are the days when Europe where the only stable people.
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Old October 1st, 2010, 03:05 AM   #2739
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Folowing the bid index, we can summarize the US bid technically.
http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=33759

Country commitment
Government: total support for hosting a WC
Public: huge support (social networks, +1000000 online petition signatures)

Football
Stadiums: 21 stadiums in 18 cities, already built
Training facilities: excellent facilities
Standard of football: football on progresses, youth plan

General country infrastructure
Transportation: air and urban transport infrastructure will meet the demands for a WC, some improvements expected
Media and telecommunications: excellent facilities
Hotels: excellent hotels infrastructure
Safety and security: country very capable to meet security standards
Medical centres: adequate network

Finance
Budget for the World Cup: unknown
Ticketing: 5000000 tickets to be sold for $1000000000 profits

Legacy
Country: social goals, tax for water distribution in developping countries
Football: want to be a big football country
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Old October 1st, 2010, 04:07 AM   #2740
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By the way, this is Chuck Blazer, the Ex-co member tasked with bringing votes over to the USA.







Oh wait, never mind that last one...
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