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Old November 1st, 2010, 12:09 PM   #2801
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Old November 1st, 2010, 03:20 PM   #2802
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Old November 1st, 2010, 04:17 PM   #2803
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Hi People,
I am new to this forum. While I think the US could host a decent world cup. I think the world cup needs to be shared around the world. The USA, South Korea and Japan need to give other countries a chance to host the world cup. That is why I think it should go to Australia. (I don't think Qatar could host a good world cup)
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 04:37 AM   #2804
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Can't just share for the sake of sharing with all the demands FIFA has. The U.S. will have to spend pennies compared to the billions that SA had to spend just to show they could do it. I hate that kind of contest. No winners.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 04:50 AM   #2805
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Can't just share for the sake of sharing with all the demands FIFA has. The U.S. will have to spend pennies compared to the billions that SA had to spend just to show they could do it. I hate that kind of contest. No winners.
I think the USA would host a pretty good cup,you're just fortunate to have a brilliant back up of 2026 where you will be the undisputed CONCACAF bid.
Certainly my No.2 pick behind my own countries bid
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 06:01 AM   #2806
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The two main arguments in favor of an OZ WC.

1) But but but... you guys already had your chance!

2) You guys can wait for 2026 but we can't!
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 06:44 AM   #2807
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The two main arguments in favor of an OZ WC.

1) But but but... you guys already had your chance!

2) You guys can wait for 2026 but we can't!
or (3) we actually do major events better - lets compare how Sydney 2000 went compared to Atlanta 1996, Sydney is rated one of the best Olympics of all time, whereas most people couldn't leave Atlanta behind quickly enough
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 06:56 AM   #2808
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Haha, metro Atlanta is barely 1% of our whole country. What a sorry comparison. Nobody wants to see soccer on ovals anyway.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 07:10 AM   #2809
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Haha, metro Atlanta is barely 1% of our whole country. What a sorry comparison. Nobody wants to see soccer on ovals anyway.
yes, but it showcased your nations ability to host an Olympics, and it was one of the more average efforts in recent times

do the USA have the might, power, money, and infrastructure to host major sporting events? absolutely and without a doubt.

do they do a good job of it though? for some, definitely (the Superbowl is now the benchmark IMO for any decent grand final for an annual comp). for others though, there can be something lacking

not saying Australia has a 100% success rate either, but being a smaller country we have to succeed at that stuff more than you guys do. We don't have a permanent seat on the security council, multiple carrier groups, Hollywood, or the office of "the most powerful man on earth". If you guys host an average WC, you will shrug your shoulders and move on to the next big thing. Here we will obsess about how failure will tarnish our global image for years because sporting events is one of the few things we actually do half well.
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yes, but it showcased your nations ability to host an Olympics, and it was one of the more average efforts in recent times

do the USA have the might, power, money, and infrastructure to host major sporting events? absolutely and without a doubt.

do they do a good job of it though? for some, definitely (the Superbowl is now the benchmark IMO for any decent grand final for an annual comp). for others though, there can be something lacking

not saying Australia has a 100% success rate either, but being a smaller country we have to succeed at that stuff more than you guys do. We don't have a permanent seat on the security council, multiple carrier groups, Hollywood, or the office of "the most powerful man on earth". If you guys host an average WC, you will shrug your shoulders and move on to the next big thing. Here we will obsess about how failure will tarnish our global image for years because sporting events is one of the few things we actually do half well.
The Olympics are only alive as we know it and Sydney only got a chance to host a modern Olympics because Los Angeles 1984 kept the entire thing from collapsing. We wrote the blueprint for the modern Olympics.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 07:25 AM   #2811
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Odd how you cite Atlanta's Olympics in a World Cup thread but not the World Cup our whole nation hosted two years before that.

And I post on AFL and NRL forums. I am aware of the apathy and even antipathy toward soccer in your country from the masses that were raised on traditional sports. The divide is even greater than here.
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Odd how you cite Atlanta's Olympics in a World Cup thread but not the World Cup our whole nation hosted two years before that.

And I post on AFL and NRL forums. I am aware of the apathy and even antipathy toward soccer in your country from the masses that were raised on traditional sports. The divide is even greater than here.
Only because the WC is played in the NFL/College Football offseasons.
Imagine the Stadium issues in the US if the WC was played in January.
Its quite amazing that Australia has actually sorted it out,even though many AFL/NRL fans will see the seasons greatly interrupted.
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The Olympics are only alive as we know it and Sydney only got a chance to host a modern Olympics because Los Angeles 1984 kept the entire thing from collapsing. We wrote the blueprint for the modern Olympics.
As I said, you do some well, some not so

LA was a good games, Atlanta a shocker

as I mentioned, it doesn't mean much in the US though because the US is so big it has that many fingers in that many pies there is always something new to focus on

if Sydney had been a failed games, the consequences would bring down a govt IMO (because of the humiliation it would bring us)
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 09:07 AM   #2814
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Odd how you cite Atlanta's Olympics in a World Cup thread but not the World Cup our whole nation hosted two years before that.

And I post on AFL and NRL forums. I am aware of the apathy and even antipathy toward soccer in your country from the masses that were raised on traditional sports. The divide is even greater than here.

With the free to air and subscription tv all time records both being held by the Australian National Football team that argument just doesn't hold.We have the highest number of participants of any code by a big margin
The other sports can smell the fear.Its obvious that a 12 year build up has the other codes worried.
As for traditional-Australia was the second nation to formally adopt Association rules,and it was a football match in 1905 between Sydney metropolitan and New Zealand which saw numbers on shirts for the first time in any sport,including the goalkeepers No.1 which remains today.
Football actually has links for thousands of years in Australia via the oldest indigenous game here.

Mainstream maybe,traditional definitely not
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 09:55 AM   #2815
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 11:03 AM   #2816
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The other sports can smell the fear.Its obvious that a 12 year build up has the other codes worried.
This little bit proves my point about the petty contentiousness.
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This argument is more pertinent to Australia, as much of the US infrastructure is already built or would be adequate for the NFL outside of the World Cup. No white elephants over here.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 11:49 AM   #2817
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This little bit proves my point about the petty contentiousness.

This argument is more pertinent to Australia, as much of the US infrastructure is already built or would be adequate for the NFL outside of the World Cup. No white elephants over here.
Agree, some of the stuff being posted is just getting odd, be grateful you ain't getting some of the stupid stuff bagging the UK/Russia/Qatar here

On AU, the white elephant issue isn't one either. All the major stadium upgrades (Adelaide, Perth, Gold Coast) need to happen regardless just for the other sporting codes, and the regional ones will be needed as well (although they will have some temp seating).

To get back to the USA though, as I've posted elsewhere weeks ago, I expect you guys to ace the tech review, stadiums and infrastructure was never going to be your issue
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 01:00 PM   #2818
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The two main arguments in favor of an OZ WC.

1) But but but... you guys already had your chance!

2) You guys can wait for 2026 but we can't!
I think the Aussies have one or two more arguments than that, but if you want to underestimate your opponenents go right ahead.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 01:35 PM   #2819
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The two main arguments in favor of an OZ WC.

1) But but but... you guys already had your chance!

2) You guys can wait for 2026 but we can't!
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I think the Aussies have one or two more arguments than that, but if you want to underestimate your opponenents go right ahead.
Agree. I still think the yanks are the favourites, but I will be laughing so hard at this hngcm guy if we get it.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 01:40 PM   #2820
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Haha, metro Atlanta is barely 1% of our whole country. What a sorry comparison. Nobody wants to see soccer on ovals anyway.
The final of 2006 was on an oval here in Berlin. Everyone thought that was ok.
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