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Old October 24th, 2008, 09:47 PM   #681
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In my opinion the World Cup is the biggest and most important sport tounament in the whole world, even more important than the olympics.

I dont think, that the USA will get the Wold Cup in 2022, because the had it in 1994. There are many countrys which never hosted a World Cup. Other countrys deserved it more, because in the USA theSport has not the popularity like it hasin other countrys.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 10:32 PM   #682
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I think the U.S. or China will get it. If I had to put my money down I would bet China will be chosen.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 11:24 PM   #683
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This may surprise you but China haven't decided whether or not they want to bid and from their recent comments haven't sounded as keen as you might think.

At Judge although you have some good points you have to remember a few factors regarding your ideas. Firstly you have to have teams playing a bare minimum number of games because it would take away from the whole experience if they we're out of there after 1 game so how else could they get teams playing a minimum of 3 games against 3 different opponents?

Although the groups can be done and dusted after 2 games you also get plenty of groups were it goes right down to that very last minute and can be very exciting, but as the pundits and all fans know it's when it gets to the knockout stage that it gets exciting and comes into it's own. I think you make a good point regarding teams not needing to win every game, at the moment there is reward for teams that top their group that they then play a runner-up from another group in the next round, maybe they could come up with a better system but I think it would be pretty difficult.

Regarding the time between the two for me it adds to the excitement that long wait for the Holy Grail championships. For me it would take away from the whole spectacle if they had a World Cup every 1/2 years would you have the Olympics more often? Also it wouldn't be feasible in that the season is already extremely congested the players have to have some off time and they also have to make time for Continental championships like the European Championships, African Cup of Nations, Copa America etc.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 11:33 PM   #684
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I dont think, that the USA will get the Wold Cup in 2022, because the had it in 1994. There are many countrys which never hosted a World Cup. Other countrys deserved it more, because in the USA theSport has not the popularity like it hasin other countrys.
Do you know the criteria? Very few countries can host the World Cup.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 11:48 PM   #685
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Well what do you consider an internation feel? For a large city, Boston may be the most European in the country. Then again, this is America and we have our own way and own landscape much like Vienna is quite different than Lima, or Nagoya is different than Lisbon.
Well I suppose it's kind of hard to describe what an international feel sort of is. I've not been to Boston yet but the main feature i've noticed when visiting larger American cities is that they do have more of an international vibe to them, but smaller ones and places more in the country aren't as much, sometimes to the extent you could claim they're anti-international. This is just of course a general idea, i'm not saying that all places are like that, just that there seems to be more of a "them and us" kind of philosophy in some places.

I suppose you could say this about most countries, but coming from the U.K. and being a European it's just a new situation i've not experienced before.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 09:00 PM   #686
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The World Cup happens every 4 years. If it happened every year, I would say a single elimination tournament would work and be good. But it doesn't happen every year like the NCAA tournament. How would you rank the teams? Using their FIFA ranking? If so, that could be a flawed system.

There are a fair share of upsets and surprises in the WC. Look back to 2002 when Portugal didn't make the round of 16 and the US made it to the quarterfinals. Or in 2006 when you had both the Ukraine and Switzerland maiking the round of 16.
Yeah, I am not too sure how the rankings could be worked out. Thats a problem with FIFA, as well as NCAA basketball/football. Its very subjective and there will always be those who will be upset with their seed/rank. What I can't understand is how highly ranked the U.S. national team is from time to time.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #687
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At Judge although you have some good points you have to remember a few factors regarding your ideas. Firstly you have to have teams playing a bare minimum number of games because it would take away from the whole experience if they we're out of there after 1 game so how else could they get teams playing a minimum of 3 games against 3 different opponents?

Although the groups can be done and dusted after 2 games you also get plenty of groups were it goes right down to that very last minute and can be very exciting, but as the pundits and all fans know it's when it gets to the knockout stage that it gets exciting and comes into it's own. I think you make a good point regarding teams not needing to win every game, at the moment there is reward for teams that top their group that they then play a runner-up from another group in the next round, maybe they could come up with a better system but I think it would be pretty difficult.

Regarding the time between the two for me it adds to the excitement that long wait for the Holy Grail championships. For me it would take away from the whole spectacle if they had a World Cup every 1/2 years would you have the Olympics more often? Also it wouldn't be feasible in that the season is already extremely congested the players have to have some off time and they also have to make time for Continental championships like the European Championships, African Cup of Nations, Copa America etc.
Yeah, my idea has alot of flaws--especially the timing with the Olympics/league seasons and the "one and done" style of the tournament. Of course, I don't think it would ever be taken seriously---as literally I am one guy with this opinion and the entire world disagrees with it!

It might be a bit arrogant of me to assume that NCAA tournament structure would work for everybody. I think you might get a taste of it though to see for yourself this spring at Indiana.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 11:33 AM   #688
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In my opinion the World Cup is the biggest and most important sport tounament in the whole world, even more important than the olympics.

I dont think, that the USA will get the Wold Cup in 2022, because the had it in 1994. There are many countrys which never hosted a World Cup. Other countrys deserved it more, because in the USA theSport has not the popularity like it hasin other countrys.
It's grown a lot in the last 14 years and theres no reason it wont grow in the next 14. We will have probably 20 team league and with everyone playing in their stadiums by then.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 12:53 PM   #689
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wtf the World Cup is the biggest event in the world by light years and is perfect the way it is so why would u change it
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Old October 26th, 2008, 09:10 PM   #690
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To this date the 1994 FIFA WC was the biggest money making WC ever...... Another one here in the unified colonies would dwarf any other tournament in terms of $$$......
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Old October 26th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #691
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Do you know the criteria? Very few countries can host the World Cup.
If South Africa can host it, anybody can.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 03:34 AM   #692
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If South Africa can host it, anybody can.
South Africa has quite a few people and major cities compared to most nations.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 05:19 AM   #693
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It's grown a lot in the last 14 years and theres no reason it wont grow in the next 14. We will have probably 20 team league and with everyone playing in their stadiums by then.
it will grow as asia gets richer and takes american fans away from crap sports like gridiron.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 07:05 AM   #694
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it will grow as asia gets richer and takes american fans away from crap sports like gridiron.
hey, um...lets stay on topic ok? If you expect people to take you seriously then you should use another method. Dont make useless comments, especially ones as unwarranted as what you said. However, i really shouldnt expect anything else from you, being as you have a long history of acting like an immature idiot.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 07:22 AM   #695
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Yeah, my idea has alot of flaws--especially the timing with the Olympics/league seasons and the "one and done" style of the tournament. Of course, I don't think it would ever be taken seriously---as literally I am one guy with this opinion and the entire world disagrees with it!

It might be a bit arrogant of me to assume that NCAA tournament structure would work for everybody. I think you might get a taste of it though to see for yourself this spring at Indiana.
You do realize that teams qualify over 2 and half years before the tournament right. All the teams in FIFA have a chance to qualify. It's why it's called the "World Cup FINALS".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FI..._qualification
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Old October 27th, 2008, 01:37 PM   #696
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hey, um...lets stay on topic ok? If you expect people to take you seriously then you should use another method. Dont make useless comments, especially ones as unwarranted as what you said. However, i really shouldnt expect anything else from you, being as you have a long history of acting like an immature idiot.
you know that I'm right
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Old October 27th, 2008, 01:41 PM   #697
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You do realize that teams qualify over 2 and half years before the tournament right. All the teams in FIFA have a chance to qualify. It's why it's called the "World Cup FINALS".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FI..._qualification
I don't think he does

anyway, the current 32 team format is perfect and changing it would allow too many mediocre teams
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no, i know that you are an ignorant *******
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In my opinion the World Cup is the biggest and most important sport tounament in the whole world, even more important than the olympics.

I dont think, that the USA will get the Wold Cup in 2022, because the had it in 1994. There are many countrys which never hosted a World Cup. Other countrys deserved it more, because in the USA theSport has not the popularity like it hasin other countrys.
Since the U.S. hosted the World Cup back in 1994, there will have been 6 cups since then. North America is in line to host the cup as South America, Asia, Africa and Europe have all hosted since then. People think the odds on favorite for 2018 will be England so the U.S. is in a good position to get eh nod in 2022.
Outside of Europe, there are not many countries that can host the WC to the extent that it needs to be. The U.S. has the finest collection of stadiums of any country and is well equipped to host. My money is on England 2018, U.S. 2022 and Australia/China 2026.
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