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Old June 4th, 2009, 10:48 PM   #1141
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its coming for sure. I can feel it!
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Old June 5th, 2009, 02:24 AM   #1142
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Ticket sales are not FIFAs business. They get their money solely from broadcasting rights and sponsorships deals. It doesn't make a difference for them whether a ground holds 45'000 seats or 90'000.
Either way, the US beats any other country just based on potential sponsors. Theres a lot of large companies based in the US. And they can play games at noon to broadcast games at night in Europe. Unlike Australia, do you want to watch games in the middle of the night again? I don't, I barely remember the 2002 world cup because of that.
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Old June 5th, 2009, 02:35 AM   #1143
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Either way, the US beats any other country just based on potential sponsors. Theres a lot of large companies based in the US. And they can play games at noon to broadcast games at night in Europe. Unlike Australia, do you want to watch games in the middle of the night again? I don't, I barely remember the 2002 world cup because of that.
Potential sponsors?? the sponsors for the world cup are long term partners, they are literally allowed near exclusivity over advertising, all the corporately named german stadiums had to change their name for the 2006 tournament...

While the 2002 world cup was tosh, the 1994 world cup was ruined in many cases by the stupid heat of midday kick offs, especially the final, it's a killer...
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Old June 5th, 2009, 03:41 AM   #1144
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Old June 5th, 2009, 05:30 AM   #1145
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And they can play games at noon to broadcast games at night in Europe. Unlike Australia, do you want to watch games in the middle of the night again? I don't, I barely remember the 2002 world cup because of that.
What about Australia's ability to show a worldcup in the same timezones to over 1.5 billion people and another 1.5 billion (central and south asia) only 2 to 3 hours behind. Prime time evening games beaming back into Europe around luchtime.

So should 900 milion continental Americans have to get up in the early hours or should that be left to 3 billion Asians.

An Australian World Cup would be played in a mild winter, which is great soccer weather.
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Old June 5th, 2009, 06:08 AM   #1146
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Potential sponsors?? the sponsors for the world cup are long term partners, they are literally allowed near exclusivity over advertising, all the corporately named german stadiums had to change their name for the 2006 tournament...

While the 2002 world cup was tosh, the 1994 world cup was ruined in many cases by the stupid heat of midday kick offs, especially the final, it's a killer...
well if the final isnt in LA, then it shouldnt be a problem. I sense there will be a lot more east coast sites than last time.
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Old June 5th, 2009, 08:58 AM   #1147
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Potential sponsors?? the sponsors for the world cup are long term partners, they are literally allowed near exclusivity over advertising, all the corporately named german stadiums had to change their name for the 2006 tournament...

While the 2002 world cup was tosh, the 1994 world cup was ruined in many cases by the stupid heat of midday kick offs, especially the final, it's a killer...
Oh yeah, you know for a fact all the sponsors for the 2022 world cup? Your talents are wasted on this thread then. Please, go on and spend your clairvoyant talent on something that will benefit the human race. Shoo!
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Old June 5th, 2009, 03:30 PM   #1148
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Oh yeah, you know for a fact all the sponsors for the 2022 world cup? Your talents are wasted on this thread then. Please, go on and spend your clairvoyant talent on something that will benefit the human race. Shoo!
did you read what i said, the sponsors are long term, they don't choose world cup specific sponsors, for crying out loud!
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Old June 5th, 2009, 11:37 PM   #1149
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No, the organisation committee of the domestic FA sells the tickets (well, the small fraction of tickets that gets sold at all) and covers some expenses with the money.
SA's FA is only going to sell the tickets that are allotted to their federation. Most likely they will get the biggest chunk as they are the hosts, but that does not mean they control all the ticket sales. Majority of the tickets will be distributed to the participating federations (and paid for by federations), and the rest will be sold directly by FIFA's ticketing partner. When I went to Germany in 2006 I had two avenues to do so, purchase tickets through USSF or through FIFA. I lucked out and got tickets through USSF's lottery.
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FIFA doesn't care about football. But I do and hundreds of millions of football fans do. We all want covered stands.
I like covered stands as much as you, but thank you for proving my point.
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Old June 5th, 2009, 11:43 PM   #1150
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Potential sponsors?? the sponsors for the world cup are long term partners, they are literally allowed near exclusivity over advertising, all the corporately named german stadiums had to change their name for the 2006 tournament...
And this could potentially be a road block for the American bid. A lot of these stadium sponsors have exclusive naming rights to the stadiums, which means World Cup or not the stadium can not be called anything else. We'll see how that plays out.

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While the 2002 world cup was tosh, the 1994 world cup was ruined in many cases by the stupid heat of midday kick offs, especially the final, it's a killer...
I agree 100%. Mexico had the same problems in 1986 as well, if not worse.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 02:36 PM   #1151
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SA's FA is only going to sell the tickets that are allotted to their federation. Most likely they will get the biggest chunk as they are the hosts, but that does not mean they control all the ticket sales. Majority of the tickets will be distributed to the participating federations (and paid for by federations), and the rest will be sold directly by FIFA's ticketing partner. When I went to Germany in 2006 I had two avenues to do so, purchase tickets through USSF or through FIFA. I lucked out and got tickets through USSF's lottery.
You shouldn't assume that the FIFA sold the tickets just because they are labelled with FIFA badges. Fact is that it was the organisation committee of the German FA that sold the 1.2m 'free' tickets. They organised the whole sale procedure and collected the money to fund their own budget.

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I like covered stands as much as you, but thank you for proving my point.
I proved you nothing. FIFA is no reference for football grounds.

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And this could potentially be a road block for the American bid. A lot of these stadium sponsors have exclusive naming rights to the stadiums, which means World Cup or not the stadium can not be called anything else. We'll see how that plays out.
Official FIFA sponsors are cut down to five of which 2 companies are based in the USA. Nothing overwhelming.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 12:46 AM   #1152
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the 1994 world cup was ruined in many cases by the stupid heat of midday kick offs, especially the final, it's a killer...
O, little European got to much sun. its called Water and Sunscreen. We Americans can handle it, i think you can too.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 12:51 AM   #1153
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O, little European got to much sun. its called Water and Sunscreen. We Americans can handle it, i think you can too.
He's talking about the players on the field. The heat saps their energy and slows the pace of the game.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 01:00 AM   #1154
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who's fault is that? USC plays their games in that heat. Prepare your players better.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 01:46 AM   #1155
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who's fault is that? USC plays their games in that heat. Prepare your players better.
Football is short bursts with long rests while soccer is more about endurance. You won't see a difference in the speed of a football game regardless of the heat. In soccer it's night and day.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 04:04 AM   #1156
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Heat.........yeah. if only we had a way to enclose the stadium and run a giant AC.


Oh wait.............
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Old June 7th, 2009, 08:17 AM   #1157
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who's fault is that? USC plays their games in that heat. Prepare your players better.
Don't compare autumn to summer.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 09:35 AM   #1158
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He's talking about the players on the field. The heat saps their energy and slows the pace of the game.
I'm sure the Africans won't mind a little heat during the World Cup.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 10:35 AM   #1159
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I'm sure the Africans won't mind a little heat during the World Cup.
Africans play their "Cup of nations" in January because of heat during the summer. So i suppose that they would mind it as well

Who cares tho, they are all getting paid millions to play in all possible conditions. Weather is not an excuse.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 03:08 PM   #1160
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for the record ganis, I am not an ethnic european but i am also not an ignorant texan either... the purpose of my point is to highlight that the game is played at a much slower pace due to the heat, it also pretty dangerous hence why at the start of the season many leagues (in the past) have a water break hal way through the halfs to prevent dehydration in crazy conditions, and we aren't even talking about 38+, there is a reason why football is a winter sport...
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