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Old July 12th, 2009, 08:51 AM   #1321
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San Francisco does though not in the city proper.
The San Francisco 49ers and a "San Francisco" World Cup venue are hardly the same thing.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 01:52 AM   #1322
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The new 49ers stadium will be built with soccer in mind. Just like the new meadowlands stadium and the new cowboys stadium.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 08:16 AM   #1323
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As far as coverings are concerned, they should be a concern only for those cities that really get hot in the summer, including: Hotlanta, New Heat Island York, Humidelphia, Dog Days of Columbia, Heatcago, Tropi-Miami, Sizzlin-Hotimore, Kansas Hot Air City, Los Angeles Calientes and so on...

But seriously, the heat would be the biggest drawback. Fancy new stadia with moving roofs can help but they can't cancel out Mother Nature. This is where I wish FIFA can be convinced to allow most games to be played at night but that won't go well with them. Perhaps there could be a compromise where matches involving teams from the same continent (ex. Mexico vs Argentina) or a team from the Americas vs a team from Asia (ex. Costa Rica vs Japan) can be played at night. I think that FIFA should be open to allowing more night matches at the World Cup. This is how it could be done, using the standard format of the match schedule:

Europe vs Europe - 1 PM or 12:30 PM, an earlier start preferable, East Coast city
Europe vs Americas - 4 PM, somewhere in the Midwest
Americas vs Africa - 4 PM, Midwest or South
Africa vs Asia - 1 PM if East Coast, 4 PM if Midwest/South, 7 PM if West Coast (on Pacific Time)
Asia vs Americas - 7 PM Pacific Time on West Coast
Africa vs Europe - 1 PM Eastern Time on East Coast
Asia vs Europe - I would favor Asia more (FIFA really likes Asia), West Coast or Midwest, 7 PM start in either location

The area that would get the most flexibility is with Concacaf vs Conmebol, they can be played at any hour of the day because people here are more used to the summer heat. Miami would be a good location, as well as DC and New Jersey. Make it a primetime match-up (7 or 8 PM). So a typical match-day might look something like this:

Netherlands-Romania - 12:30 pm
Japan - Cameroon - 4:00 pm
Costa Rica - Brazil - 7:00 pm

England - Nigeria - 1:00 pm
United States - Switzerland - 4:00 pm
China - Spain - 7:00 pm

Germany - Russia - 12:30 pm
Egypt - Mexico - 4:00 pm
Chile - Korea - 7:00 pm

I don't think anyone from a given confederation cares about matches involving teams NOT in their confederation, so I think they shouldn't protest about 7 o'clock start times on the West Coast. Anyone disagree?

If worse comes to worse, Stanford Stadium would be a good back-up. It was recently renovated. The track is no longer there. It's now a decent stadium. Perhaps the final can go there as well. San Diego also has decent weather. Although the stadium is now old, it isn't that bad looking, from what I've seen of it recently. It would take some renovations to bring the seating closer to the field, take out the baseball dugouts, standardize the seating levels. It sure is wide enough for the "world's game" so I don't see why it shouldn't be considered.

One more thing and I don't know if this has been brought up before: Don't you think that they're using this year's Gold Cup as a sort of test to see how a World Cup with more cities could be handled? Aren't they using, like, 13 cities for this tournament? That's for a competition that includes Central American and Caribbean teams, as well as the big continental teams.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 09:42 AM   #1324
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Miami didn't have an available stadium in 1994 because the Marlins play there and not only would they have to kick the Marlins out for 3 weeks for playing WC games there (assuming they don't get a semifinal or final), but they would also have to keep the Marlins out of the stadium for a couple weeks before and after to change and prepare the field.
Yup. Miami was all set to host the WC before the Marlins team was set.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 01:12 PM   #1325
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What I find interesting is why Orlando was chosen over Miami back in 1994. Having the final stages played in the larger cities makes sense, but Miami would not be included as Dallas is larger as a city and a metro area.
Miami has way more appeal. It's a tourist hot spot (even in the summer) and they are way better at dealing with big events (having the Super Bowl two years in a row says a lot).
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Old July 13th, 2009, 02:41 PM   #1326
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I have a list of cities for a world cup in the US with some backup solutions.

Northeast
Boston
New York
Washington DC

South
Miami
Houston
Dallas

Midwest
Chicago
Indianapolis-St Louis-Philadelphia

West
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Denver-Phoenix
Seattle

I consider dynamic cities, great touristic attraction, stadiums and cities whiche are in the sun belt.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 05:31 PM   #1327
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And don't underestimate Charlotte when it comes to bidding for something. Ask Atlanta, Daytona, Michigan, and Kansas City what happened when they did.
I like Charlotte a lot and think the Panthers stadium is top notch, but the guise of your statement is way off. There's a dramatic difference between vying to host a series of World Cup matches versus being chosen as the site for the NASCAR Hall of Fame & Museum, which everyone and their brother knew would end up in Charlotte anyway. That process is hardly an indicator of Charlotte's ability to serve as a global destination over other cities.

Context, people. Context.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 09:19 PM   #1328
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what stadiums are FIFA ready(a lot of the stadiums in the popular cities are simply not) and what cities are willing to pay to get those stadiums ready will be a huge factor. Charlotte's stadium is more FIFA ready than a lot of these places, but FIFA will definitely want some roofs added.
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Old July 14th, 2009, 04:07 AM   #1329
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Miami has way more appeal. It's a tourist hot spot (even in the summer) and they are way better at dealing with big events (having the Super Bowl two years in a row says a lot).
Yeah. Miami lost out in '94 because the Marlins were playing in the football/soccer stadium, but that won't be a problem next time around. While I'm not a huge fan of roofs and don't campaign on behalf of them around here usually, Miami is a city that's hot enough where a roof may suit them. With 9 or 13 years to go until the possible WC, Dolphin/Landshark Stadium will need another renovation by then so maybe a small roof can be part of it.
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Old July 14th, 2009, 04:09 AM   #1330
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what stadiums are FIFA ready(a lot of the stadiums in the popular cities are simply not) and what cities are willing to pay to get those stadiums ready will be a huge factor. Charlotte's stadium is more FIFA ready than a lot of these places, but FIFA will definitely want some roofs added.
It depends on what you consider FIFA ready. Most of what FIFA asks for is recommended so FIFA ready is tough to gauge. While there's no way field size will be compromised this time around, FIFA could make exceptions on the extra space around the field. While they'd like enough covered seats, they may decrease how many need to be covered for the US, allowing the suites, club seats and press boxes already built in these stadiums to suffice.
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Old July 14th, 2009, 05:31 AM   #1331
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It depends on what you consider FIFA ready. Most of what FIFA asks for is recommended so FIFA ready is tough to gauge. While there's no way field size will be compromised this time around, FIFA could make exceptions on the extra space around the field. While they'd like enough covered seats, they may decrease how many need to be covered for the US, allowing the suites, club seats and press boxes already built in these stadiums to suffice.

The FIFA document is pretty clear on the actual World Cup. Field size has a minimum requirement, while space around the field is a recommendation.

The Rose Bowl would be an example to look at.

- The field is fine, but the benches would have to go in favors of all seats. That's a safety regulation of theirs to have all seats.
- I have to wonder about the disable requirement(very similar to ADA requirements.) A row or two might have to be take out for this
- Lighting should be fine as they wisely left this to the television network requirements as they do in the NFL.
- From the wording the "VIP" and media sections have to be covered. A place like Soldier Field might be able to accomodate this by the suites. Can the Rose Bowl, or will they have to build a canopy for both?
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Old July 14th, 2009, 05:54 AM   #1332
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As far as "covered area for press and dignitaries," club seats.
Perhaps, but it is a lot of press.

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http://www.fifa.com/mm/51/54/02/foot...ts_en_8211.pdf

in case anyone wants to diagnose each stadium's problem
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Old July 19th, 2009, 01:02 AM   #1334
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UNIVISION CEO JOE UVA JOINS TEAM TO BRING FIFA WORLD CUP TO U.S. IN 2018 OR 2022


Executive Office of Univision Communications joins Board of Directors for USA Bid Committee


NEW YORK (July 16, 2009) – Joe Uva, the Chief Executive Officer of Univision Communications, Inc., today accepted an invitation to join the Board of Directors for the USA Bid Committee in its efforts to bring the FIFA World Cup to the United States in 2018 or 2022.

Univision is the leading Spanish-language media company in the U.S. Uva became Univision CEO on April 1, 2007, assuming overall responsibility for the company's suite of market-leading assets that include the Univision Network, which is one of the top five television networks in America regardless of language — and is also the No. 1 Spanish-language broadcast television network; TeleFutura, the second leading Spanish-language network in key day parts; KMEX, the No. 1 television station in the country regardless of language; Galavisiˇn, the No. 1 Spanish-language cable network; Univision Radio, the No. 1 Spanish-language radio group and Univision Interactive Media, which includes the No. 1 U.S. Spanish-language Internet portal.

“In the U.S., Univision is ‘futbol’ for millions of viewers looking to feel the passion and energy that defines the sport,” said Uva. “Because of the growing influence and impact of the Hispanic population in this country, we know we will have a critical voice in helping the United States secure the opportunity to host the FIFA World Cup in 2018 or 2022. I am personally honored to be able to support this bid on their behalf.”

Univision has been the exclusive Spanish-language broadcaster of the FIFA World Cup since 1978. Univision is also a major supporter of soccer in the U.S. through its broadcasts of the Men’s National Team and Major League Soccer, in addition to a wide range of top-tier global events in which the U.S. participates.

“The USA Bid Committee is grateful to have Joe Uva and Univision Communications supporting our bid to host the FIFA World Cup in 2018 or 2022,” said David Downs, Executive Director of the USA Bid Committee. “Univision serves a crucial role in introducing millions of Spanish-speaking individuals to our country every year and soccer plays an especially important role in that process. The Hispanic population greatly contributes to the diversity of our country and that diversity is a key strength of our bid.”

“For our bid to be successful, we will need the support of key allies in the media to help us communicate the fundamental mission behind our bid,” said Sunil Gulati, the Chairman of the USA Bid Committee and President of U.S. Soccer. “Univision answers that call with a significant and growing base of viewers that has proven over the years to be passionate about soccer.”

Prior to joining Univision, Uva spent five years as the President and Chief Executive Officer of Omnicom’s OMD Worldwide, building the company into the No. 2-ranked media strategy and buying agency in the world with over 100 offices in over 80 countries. Uva also spent 17 years at Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. In 1996, he was named President of Sales and Marketing for Turner Entertainment Group.

Uva is a member of the board of directors of TiVo, Inc. (NASDAQ: TIVO). He also serves on several non-profit boards including the Ad Council and the International Radio & Television Society Foundation and is a member of the CEO Roundtable on Cancer.

The United States, Australia, England, Indonesia, Japan, Mexico and Russia have formally declared their desire to host the FIFA World Cup™ in 2018 or 2022. Netherlands-Belgium and Portugal-Spain have each submitted joint bids for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, while Qatar and South Korea have applied as candidates to play host only to the tournament in 2022.

All candidates must have their bid applications to FIFA by May 14, 2010. FIFA’s 24 member Executive Committee will study the bids, conduct site visits and name the two hosts for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments in December 2010, completing a 21-month bid and review process.

Uva joins the Board of Directors of the USA Bid Committee that recently welcomed New England Revolution and New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, U.S. Soccer Foundation President Ed Foster-Simeon, University of Miami President Donna Shalala, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, U.S. National Team icons Landon Donovan and Mia Hamm, and former U.S. Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger. In the months ahead, the USA Bid Committee will add additional national leaders from the sectors of sports, entertainment, government and business.

The USA Bid Committee’s efforts also recently earned the support of President Barack Obama, who has reached out to FIFA – the world's governing body of soccer – to endorse the efforts to bring the world’s largest sporting event back to the United States. In a letter to FIFA President Joseph “Sepp” Blatter and U.S. Soccer President Sunil Gulati, President Obama noted the role soccer played in his life as a youth, and its ability to unite people, communities and nations from every continent.

“Hosting another successful World Cup is important for the continued growth of the sport in the United States. And it is important to me personally,” President Obama wrote in his letter. “As a child, I played soccer on a dirt road in Jakarta, and the game brought the children of my neighborhood together. As a father, I saw that same spirit of unity alive on the fields and sidelines of my own daughters’ soccer games in Chicago.”

“Soccer is truly the world’s sport, and the World Cup promotes camaraderie and friendly competition across the globe,” President Obama added. “That is why this bid is about much more than a game. It is about the United States of America inviting the world to gather all across our great country in celebration of our common hopes and dreams.”

http://www.univision.com/content/con...ml?cid=2017830
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Old July 20th, 2009, 02:57 AM   #1335
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ya, More backing!
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Old July 20th, 2009, 07:12 AM   #1336
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Highlights of the Mexico-Haiti game at the brand new Cowboys stadium.

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Old July 21st, 2009, 09:42 PM   #1337
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Dallas is ready

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Old July 21st, 2009, 11:00 PM   #1338
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Even in Concacaf, France is competing !!
AHHH worldwide France

So can we have 2 or 3 France in the world cup ????
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Old July 22nd, 2009, 12:16 AM   #1339
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Even in Concacaf, France is competing !!
AHHH worldwide France

So can we have 2 or 3 France in the world cup ????


senegal, malý, cote d'ivoire...more than 2 or 3 ...
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Old July 22nd, 2009, 01:08 AM   #1340
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No, these are independant countries, but Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guiana & Saint-Martin NO : They are part of France, they are French Departments with their own teams in Concacaf !!

Look at the flag :

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