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Old June 3rd, 2008, 02:35 AM   #121
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@ Carrera -- in case you missed it the first time....


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Oh yeah, China -- with their human wrongs record, killer earthquakes, major epidemic outbreaks before international sporting events. (have you already forgotten the SARS outbreak before the 2003 Women's World Cup awarded to THEM?) If it had to take them 2 tries to carry off the Women's game, do you thnk they could carry off the men's WC in one try?

And who stepped in 5 years ago to save the tournament China's face and FIFA's butt in that instance? Why, only a small, football-backwoods country called the USA.

Gee, I hope FIFA does not have another brainfreeze moment in 2011 as the IOC did.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 02:39 AM   #122
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Well, India is #2 -- you don't see them giving the WC to India.

What is it with this obsession of yours over China? They will certainly NOT get a WC any time soon before the USA or the UK.

DO I have to repost what I said about China earlier?
It's not Chinese obsession. If your country contends with other countries you'll see another obsession of mine because World Cup in USA is the last thing I want to see.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 02:49 AM   #123
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It's not Chinese obsession. If your country contends with other countries you'll see another obsession of mine because World Cup in USA is the last thing I want to see.
Oh yeah, I guess your subjective view will figure greatly in how FIFA makes their choice(s) -- even more than ABC, Coca-Cola, MasterCard, McDonalds, etc., and the other sponsors.

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Old June 3rd, 2008, 02:58 AM   #124
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Well, football is a little more physically demanding than baseball or american football
Well thats just not true...im not judging the quality of the sports here, just saying that American football is far more physically demaning
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 03:00 AM   #125
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The population of China alone is more than twice larger than that of USA, Mexico, Canada, the Caribbean
And yet, the US economy is still bigger
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 03:18 AM   #126
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Well thats just not true...im not judging the quality of the sports here, just saying that American football is far more physically demaning
Football is like a distance run. American football is more of a sprint relay. There's a reason marathons are not run on a summer afternoon.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 03:22 AM   #127
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Football is like a distance run. American football is more of a sprint relay. There's a reason marathons are not run on a summer afternoon.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 05:03 AM   #128
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Football is like a distance run. American football is more of a sprint relay. There's a reason marathons are not run on a summer afternoon.
yet there are in the olympics!

Facts are this. When the World Cup comes to THe USA. The prime games will be played for Americas prime time because no matter what FIFA says, they are not going to be able to walk into America again and tell us when to play.
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yet there are in the olympics!

Facts are this. When the World Cup comes to THe USA. The prime games will be played for Americas prime time because no matter what FIFA says, they are not going to be able to walk into America again and tell us when to play.
Ummmm.....no they aren't. Look it up.

Any US bid will need to take into account European TV demands which will mean 12/2/4pm kick offs like 1986/94.
US prime time means nothing in football terms.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 05:30 AM   #130
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Ummmm.....no they aren't. Look it up.

Any US bid will need to take into account European TV demands which will mean 12/2/4pm kick offs like 1986/94.
US prime time means nothing in football terms.
Dont worry, the US will have no problem having earlier times
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Ummmm.....no they aren't. Look it up.

Any US bid will need to take into account European TV demands which will mean 12/2/4pm kick offs like 1986/94.
US prime time means nothing in football terms.
i thought you didn't want us to give you a poor quality since they would be playing during mid day because the soccer players need to be pampered. we dont want another crazy french man running around head butting everyone, and what makes you think the US officials would give 2 flips about the Euro audience, there are more watchers in the the Americas then Europe. you can watching the tapings.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 05:47 AM   #132
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yet there are in the olympics!

Facts are this. When the World Cup comes to THe USA. The prime games will be played for Americas prime time because no matter what FIFA says, they are not going to be able to walk into America again and tell us when to play.


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Old June 3rd, 2008, 05:52 AM   #133
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i thought you didn't want us to give you a poor quality since they would be playing during mid day because the soccer players need to be pampered. we dont want another crazy french man running around head butting everyone, and what makes you think the US officials would give 2 flips about the Euro audience, there are more watchers in the the Americas then Europe. you can watching the tapings.
I don't want to see early kickoffs at all but a US world cup will mean exactly that.

US officials will either have to use sensible kickoff times and risk losing high revenue audience or have early kickoffs and lower quality of play but keep the paymasters happy. Outside the US, people have very little tolerance of tapings. It's live or nothing.

The best solution might be to pick host cities heavily biased to northern coastal areas. Seattle/Portland/SF/NYC/Chicago etc. Dallas/Pheonix aren't great choices. Atlanta is best left out entirely.

I've got my doubts as to whether there are more watchers in the America's than Europe. There certainly isn't if we include Africa which is more or less the same time zone.

Or better still, FIFA will give it to England and then everyone will be happy.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 05:59 AM   #134
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I don't want to see early kickoffs at all but a US world cup will mean exactly that.

US officials will either have to use sensible kickoff times and risk losing high revenue audience or have early kickoffs and lower quality of play but keep the paymasters happy. Outside the US, people have very little tolerance of tapings. It's live or nothing.

The best solution might be to pick host cities heavily biased to northern coastal areas. Seattle/Portland/SF/NYC/Chicago etc. Dallas/Pheonix aren't great choices. Atlanta is best left out entirely.

I've got my doubts as to whether there are more watchers in the America's than Europe. There certainly isn't if we include Africa which is more or less the same time zone.

Or better still, FIFA will give it to England and then everyone will be happy.
Explain to me why new york, chicago, or dallas arent good choices?
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Dallas and Phoenix both have DOMED stadium wanker.

also, Europe will tune in no matter when the games are played.

Indianapolis, DOME
Atlanta, DOME
Phoenix, DOME
Dallas, DOME
Houston, DOME
Washington DC could be getting a dome
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Explain to me why new york, chicago, or dallas arent good choices?
NYC is a good choice. As is Chicago, Dallas is too hot. Simple.
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Dallas and Phoenix both have DOMED stadium wanker.

also, Europe will tune in no matter when the games are played.

Indianapolis, DOME
Atlanta, DOME
Phoenix, DOME
Dallas, DOME
Houston, DOME
Washington DC could be getting a dome
Its not likely that FIFA will want to play in Atlanta. And stop calling everyone wanker, you sound like bubomb, and you might get banned.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 06:20 AM   #138
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NYC is a good choice. As is Chicago, Dallas is too hot. Simple.
And they'll be playing in a domed, air-conditioned stadium.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 06:28 AM   #139
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Dallas is too hot. Simple.
DALLAS STADIUM
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Here's the final verdict on future Worldcups, reflecting the revised rotation policy where a host continent is ineligible for bidding for the next two tournaments.

2018 -> England
2022 -> China
2026 -> Egypt
2030 -> Turkey
2034 -> Unified Korea
2038 -> Argentine
2042 -> Russia
2046 -> Saudi Arabia
2050 -> Morocco
2054 -> Netherland and Belgium
2058 -> Indonesia
2062 -> Mexico
2066 -> Spain
2070 -> Venezuela
2074 -> Algerie
2078 -> Sweden and Norway
2082 -> Iran
2086 -> Chile
2090 -> Portugal
2094 -> Vietnam
2098 -> Nigeria
2102 -> Finally USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But in 2100 the entire human race vanishes after a huge asteroid with a diameter of 250km hit our planet!
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