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Old November 3rd, 2009, 02:31 PM   #1661
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Of course Detroit should stage group games. Ford Field is a nice stadium, idealy located in down town (as all stadiums should be) and it's a region desperate for money and attention.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 03:50 PM   #1662
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I want to support Detroit hosting some of the games but I just can't help thinking that it is better to host games in open air stadiums. I don't think it should be a deal breaker but if their are cities/stadiums which also are very suitable I prefer those. Unfortunately this leaves worthy cities like Atlanta, St. Louis, and Detroit left out.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 05:44 PM   #1663
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I want to support Detroit hosting some of the games but I just can't help thinking that it is better to host games in open air stadiums. I don't think it should be a deal breaker but if their are cities/stadiums which also are very suitable I prefer those. Unfortunately this leaves worthy cities like Atlanta, St. Louis, and Detroit left out.
Good point though.
Still, it would be lousy not to try to help them.

Then again, they might be back on their feet by then.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 08:13 PM   #1664
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I don't think FIFA is the most charitable organization.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 11:32 AM   #1665
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Then why did they give it to South Africa; a country clearly not ready for it?

Then again it dosen't matter. It's the US bid that desides which cities whould hold it, not FIFA.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 07:45 PM   #1666
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Then why did they give it to South Africa; a country clearly not ready for it?

Then again it dosen't matter. It's the US bid that desides which cities whould hold it, not FIFA.
South Africa will be ready and the World Cup needs to be spread around to every continent, that is why FIFA chose them. South Africa is easily one of the most developed countries in the continent.

Actually, FIFA would have a very large say in which US cities were to host and which were not.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 08:22 PM   #1667
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Then why did they give it to South Africa; a country clearly not ready for it?
To keep the masses happy... you need to pander to africa and asia to win votes to be FIFA president. Blatter made it his business to take the world cup to Africa and that block vote helps him stay in power

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Then again it dosen't matter. It's the US bid that desides which cities whould hold it, not FIFA.
as massp88 said it's FIFA who decides
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Old November 5th, 2009, 09:50 AM   #1668
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In my recent list, I considered cities which has a MLS team and those which have big soccer experience and success, strong public and solid soccer ambiance.
Cities like Kansas city, Denver or Seattle deserve to host WC games.

Look at this for Seattle
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...numbers05.html

Miami is the only city which has no MLS team in my list. San Jose could be considered as included in San Francisco area.
I don't want to exclude Detroit. I did my selection.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:41 PM   #1669
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South Africa will be ready and the World Cup needs to be spread around to every continent, that is why FIFA chose them. South Africa is easily one of the most developed countries in the continent.

Actually, FIFA would have a very large say in which US cities were to host and which were not.
Well, we'll see about that.
I dont see why it "needs" to do anything? We've had the WC around since 1930 and we've been doing just fine without an african host?


Perhaps they do. But if they alow it in such hell-holes as Johannesburg, Detroit shouldn't have a problem (especially since it's near Canada, and opens up for even moore football tourists).

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To keep the masses happy... you need to pander to africa and asia to win votes to be FIFA president. Blatter made it his business to take the world cup to Africa and that block vote helps him stay in power

as massp88 said it's FIFA who decides
I suppose your right. Sad really.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 06:17 PM   #1670
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I dont see why it "needs" to do anything? We've had the WC around since 1930 and we've been doing just fine without an african host?

Perhaps they do. But if they alow it in such hell-holes as Johannesburg, Detroit shouldn't have a problem (especially since it's near Canada, and opens up for even moore football tourists).

I suppose your right. Sad really.
Ever been to Joburg?
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Old November 5th, 2009, 06:37 PM   #1671
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"35,807 Attendance for first leg of playoff series against Houston"

Did they open the upper tier? Or just the hawks nest?
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Old November 5th, 2009, 06:45 PM   #1672
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Did they open the upper tier? Or just the hawks nest?
The first few rows of the upper tier, only below the walkway. I believe they call it the loge level. They can't open the hawk's nest or further upper deck because there is XBOX advertising on the tarps that cover them and they are contractually obligated to have that advertising there for league matches. That advertising deal does not extend to the MLS Cup though so if they choose to, they can open up the entire stadium for that.
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Perhaps they do. But if they alow it in such hell-holes as Johannesburg, Detroit shouldn't have a problem (especially since it's near Canada, and opens up for even moore football tourists).
Joburg has twice as many people and is sunny. That is, the field is open to the sun.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 07:15 PM   #1674
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The first few rows of the upper tier, only below the walkway. I believe they call it the loge level. They can't open the hawk's nest or further upper deck because there is XBOX advertising on the tarps that cover them and they are contractually obligated to have that advertising there for league matches. That advertising deal does not extend to the MLS Cup though so if they choose to, they can open up the entire stadium for that.
Thanks for the anwser.
I hope the Sounders can reach the final then (what is the score in the semis so far?). Do you think a sellout with the entire stadium open would be realistic then?
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Thanks for the anwser.
I hope the Sounders can reach the final then (what is the score in the semis so far?). Do you think a sellout with the entire stadium open would be realistic then?
Even the Revs got 61K for their home final in 2002. It's definitely possible.
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Well, we'll see about that.
I dont see why it "needs" to do anything? We've had the WC around since 1930 and we've been doing just fine without an african host?


Perhaps they do. But if they alow it in such hell-holes as Johannesburg, Detroit shouldn't have a problem (especially since it's near Canada, and opens up for even moore football tourists).



I suppose your right. Sad really.
Soccer is the worlds most popular sport and FIFA considers it a global game. Staging the biggest event on every continent makes sense, and is of high priority for FIFA. That same mindset is why I would like to see Autralia awarded the cup in 2026.

Look at the Olympics, South America has never hosted a games and now they are thanks to Rio, more deserving than Chicago, Tokyo and Madrid in my mind, who will host in 2016.


I have never been to Joburg, but I have been to Detroit many times. With all due respect, the city is not that exciting and can be pretty depressing, much like most of Michigan.
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I have never been to Joburg, but I have been to Detroit many times. With all due respect, the city is not that exciting and can be pretty depressing, much like most of Michigan.
One thing joburg isnt really is depressing (ok us cape townians might rip it in that regard) but it is really a very vibrant place and a melting pot of cultures. It also happens to be the economic powehouse of africa
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Thanks for the anwser.
I hope the Sounders can reach the final then (what is the score in the semis so far?). Do you think a sellout with the entire stadium open would be realistic then?
They have already said that if the Sounders make the final, they will open up the whole place.

Right now, they're in the Western Conference semifinals and tied the first leg at home. There is no away goals rule so they will have to win this weekend in Houston or get a draw and win in extra time/penalties. If they do that, they'll have the Western Conference Final next week for a spot in the MLS Cup.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 03:25 AM   #1679
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South America has never hosted a games and now they are thanks to Rio
Yes, but Latin America already did, unlike AFRICA !!!
Anyway, according the Olympic Rings there are 5 continent..and one and only one of them has never hosted the Games !!!!!!!!
Although I'm really, really happy for the Cariocas because such a wonderfull city (which I love) really deserves to host the world sport's family !

sorry of the off-topic.
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One thing joburg isnt really is depressing (ok us cape townians might rip it in that regard) but it is really a very vibrant place and a melting pot of cultures. It also happens to be the economic powehouse of africa
I've been to both and think they are pretty similar. Both are OK during the day but both have rather limited areas that as a tourist one would want to wander at night.

I have friends from JoBurg who rightly or wrongly never venture into Joburg at night which is a similar case for some Detroiters.
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