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Old February 1st, 2010, 09:32 AM   #1901
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I don't really see Tampa as a alternative since Miami is so close.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 05:36 AM   #1902
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Which Stadium would be better for holding a soccer game? Tampa or Miami? Just the stadium itself, not the city.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 05:40 AM   #1903
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Which Stadium would be better for holding a soccer game? Tampa or Miami? Just the stadium itself, not the city.
Wider pitch in Miami and if they go ahead with the roof construction it will be a far better stadium.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 06:43 AM   #1904
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Wider pitch in Miami and if they go ahead with the roof construction it will be a far better stadium.
Tampa's is in a better location though within the city. Miami's is well out of the city. From a stadium perspective (assuming the Miami renovations go through), I call it a draw, but Miami would likely get the nod because it's more glamorous/recognizable than Tampa.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 01:31 PM   #1905
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Right now Miami. It was just renovated a couple of years ago. Both have FIFA sized pitch already.
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Old February 4th, 2010, 11:23 PM   #1906
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I don't know why we're debating Miami and Tampa....easy choice...
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Old February 5th, 2010, 03:24 AM   #1907
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USA Bid best choice for FIFA WC 2022. 2018 England.

Angloamerican do it better (stadiums & arenas )
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Old February 5th, 2010, 03:53 AM   #1908
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Tampa's is in a better location though within the city. Miami's is well out of the city. From a stadium perspective (assuming the Miami renovations go through), I call it a draw, but Miami would likely get the nod because it's more glamorous/recognizable than Tampa.

Just FYI Allianz in Munich is waayyy out of the way of the main city. That worked out okay. I don't think it's necessarily the worst thing for the stadium to be out of the way, as long as there is reliable transportation from the hub of the city....which possibly could be a problem in Miami. But I would go with Miami all the way, especially if that roof goes through.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 04:34 AM   #1909
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UCLA should move to the new NFL stadium.
and leave the most hallowed stadium in all of college football where they are the primary tenant??
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Old February 5th, 2010, 08:23 AM   #1910
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and leave the most hallowed stadium in all of college football where they are the primary tenant??
Does the general populace care? Lambeau is in the middle of [relative] nowhere and still registers in more minds.

Other than that, I agree that they shouldn't move.
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Does the general populace care? Lambeau is in the middle of [relative] nowhere and still registers in more minds.

Other than that, I agree that they shouldn't move.

Lambeau is nowhere near the stature of the Rose Bowl in American sports lore.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 05:10 PM   #1912
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Lambeau is nowhere near the stature of the Rose Bowl in American sports lore.
Huh?
We're talking Lambeau as in the Packers.
12-time super bowl champions...
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Old February 5th, 2010, 05:31 PM   #1913
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Lambeau is nowhere near the stature of the Rose Bowl in American sports lore.
One man's opinion but what people know about the Rose Bowl is affiliated with the event. They know the stadium is big and in a great location, but otherwise couldn't really tell you much about it as a venue. Doesn't help that it's kind of shallow in the rake, and I know several Michigan fans who liken it to the Big House in that they do wish it could be steeper to improve the view. That and the concourses could be improved, like all older stadia.

But most true football fans I know can recall images of Lambeau just as readily. They know the green and yellow color of the trim, can easily picture a Lambeau Leap, games in the snow, the long-time streak of post-season victories, the reputation among fans and tail-gaters, etc.

The Rose Bowl is indeed a special place, but if it didn't host the Grand Daddy of Them All it might be little more than a classic but outdated and rarely filled venue.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 07:02 PM   #1914
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Lambeau is nowhere near the stature of the Rose Bowl in American sports lore.
Yes, it is. It hosts an NFL team, not some kids.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 07:53 PM   #1915
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Yes, it is. It hosts an NFL team, not some kids.
And not just any NFL team. Green Bay is known as Title Town, USA for a fair reason, even if other teams have actually won more championships.
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What would be the minimum capacity for a world cup match? And how big is Columbus Crew's stadium? (They wouldn't play at the shoe would they?)
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Old February 5th, 2010, 08:25 PM   #1917
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What would be the minimum capacity for a world cup match?
45,000, essentially. I believe 40k all seater + whatever is required for the media section is how it's spelled out in FIFA specs. Someone else can verify.
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Approximately 22k, much of which is bench seating. And before you ask, No, they won't be expanding it for WC play because it'd be too costly a measure for just that event, since the Crew couldn't fill it for MLS play.
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Highly unlikely. Bench seating, minimal press capacity, some obstructed views... It's a great venue for OSU football but not the best choice for something looking for more high ticket appeal among neutral fans. Plus, Columbus isn't among the upper echelon of destinations for international tourists.

And I say this as a casual Crew fan from afar (Ga).
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Old February 5th, 2010, 09:09 PM   #1918
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One man's opinion but what people know about the Rose Bowl is affiliated with the event. They know the stadium is big and in a great location, but otherwise couldn't really tell you much about it as a venue. Doesn't help that it's kind of shallow in the rake, and I know several Michigan fans who liken it to the Big House in that they do wish it could be steeper to improve the view. That and the concourses could be improved, like all older stadia.

But most true football fans I know can recall images of Lambeau just as readily. They know the green and yellow color of the trim, can easily picture a Lambeau Leap, games in the snow, the long-time streak of post-season victories, the reputation among fans and tail-gaters, etc.

The Rose Bowl is indeed a special place, but if it didn't host the Grand Daddy of Them All it might be little more than a classic but outdated and rarely filled venue.
And what would Lambeau be if the Packers didnt play there?

A random stadium in the middle of nowhere in northern Wisconsin.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #1919
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And what would Lambeau be if the Packers didnt play there?

A random stadium in the middle of nowhere in northern Wisconsin.
C'mon, you can do better.

I'm differentiating the roles of the Rose Bowl stadium as the home venue for UCLA football and site of the annual Rose Bowl game. Take away the latter event and the venue is hardly part of national lore, at least not to the degree rantanamo is suggesting. Thus, I'm contending that if the Rose Bowl was just a home stadium like Lambeau Field is for the Packers then odds are it's the pro stadium that's more storied. The only thing that takes the Rose Bowl over the top is its role in the historic bowl game, which would probably carry just as much luster in the LA Coliseum. So while Lambeau Field may not be venerable enough in architectural form alone to be considered the greatest venue, neither is the Rose Bowl, IMO. Both benefit greatly from their respective roles and histories. That's what I'm saying.
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Old February 8th, 2010, 10:26 PM   #1920
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IMO the Rose Bowl should stay as is. Its just too historic. After all the Rose Bowls that Ive been to, I couldnt imagine it looking any different.
They said the same thing about Yankee Stadium.
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