The Judicial Branch of Government

[wolfdgreat]

Originally Posted by Mercato

The bigger question in my mind would be, is there any semblance of ethics at all from the side of the prosecution panel, hmmm?

Now how does that post fit into my congratulatory post about the Bar Exams?
Even in the earlier vid we commented on several pages ago, we already knew the prosecution are gunning for a Trial by Publicity Circus.

Audacious statements had emanated from their sympathizers such as these:

1. That the accused is guilty until proven innocent. Further, that the accused must prove himself innocent.

2. That hearsay must be admissible as evidence.

The purveyors of these are indeed discombobulated.

Now can we really blame Miriam?

It is not actually blaming Miriam. Siguro nga natural na mag sermon. But the question is does she have priviledge of insulting the prosecution inside the court with high vioce and very degrading manner?
How come nuong napabalita yung panunuhol sa mga judges e, di ganun katindi ang mga reactions nya?

[wolfdgreat]

Originally Posted by Narnian_King

I believe si No hear evil aguirre si wolfdgreat lol

You better read few pages back.

[Narnian_King]

Seriously Tupas and the gang r hilarious! they r crazy! Sen. Miriam just speaking facts and the truth then so be it. None of Tupas Gang have proven facts for any of the statements made to the Impeachment Court so they became laughing stock to the world.

[Mercato]

Originally Posted by wolfdgreat

It is not actually blaming Miriam. Siguro nga natural na mag sermon. But the question is does she have priviledge of insulting the prosecution inside the court with high vioce and very degrading manner?
How come nuong napabalita yung panunuhol sa mga judges e, di ganun katindi ang mga reactions nya?

We are awaiting for a fair and square trial - with bated breath if I may. We dont need any Trial by Publicity Circus.

Does the prosecution have the privilege of presenting half witted tactics and wasting time and money with their never ending beating around the bush and bending the law as they see fit? Now a school survey, what next ...

Do you believe in hearsay? Do you believe that every tom, dick and harry is automatically guilty with the very first accusation streaming down the pike?

[KnightOfTheFlag]

Originally Posted by wolfdgreat

You are correct on saying that somebody is as good as guilty.

But nothing bad saying that you already gave enough evidence to win the case. Because that is in their own view. Sino ba aamin na mahina ebidencya nila?

It is highly different from what you have interpreted.

Sen Santiago : "kung anu-ano pinagsasabi nyo sa media bakit hindi kayo mag-official manifestation dito...MANALO NA KAMI MERON NA KAMING PROOF BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT"...Good grief THAT IS CONTEMPT OF COURT!!"...03.35

[Bosnyboy]

Though i agree in everything sen miriam presented during yest's hearing, i cant agree with the manner she said it. But i understand her since she is suffering from hypertension. People like that usually are short tempered, one reason is difficulty in breathing. But it can be managed with maintenance drugs. Anyways the prosecution did deserve all the berrating, insults that came their way. They wasted precious time, resources, and tax money which could have been used for development. But the biggest accomplishment of this impeachment trial is that the prosection and pnoy succeeded in dividing the nation.

[wolfdgreat]

Prosecution indeed have some issues that they need to answer and that will probably affect their case.
But the thing is, is it proper for the Judges to go below the ethical standards just to advise the prosecution for their performances?

[skyion]

Sen. Miriam Santiago: The (Yellow) Prosecution has been in BAD FAITH all along.

AGREES.

This hypocritical, mudslinging, mongering, pork barrel corrupt Yellow Prosecution is a threat to the MORALS and VALUES of this country.

[wolfram74]

Originally Posted by KnightOfTheFlag

Sen Santiago : "kung anu-ano pinagsasabi nyo sa media bakit hindi kayo mag-official manifestation dito...MANALO NA KAMI MERON NA KAMING PROOF BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT"...Good grief THAT IS CONTEMPT OF COURT!!"...03.35

i agree 100%...ang yabang yabang kasi ng prosecution. ganadong ganado magpresent ng evidence sa media...pero sa impeachment court mismo, gusto nang magwithdraw sa 5 articles of impeachment??? what's going on in these people's brains??

[KnightOfTheFlag]

I agree she went overboard on that "gago" thing but I can see she is really passionate about her job and the significance and importance of the court and this trial...the prosecution is trying to bring out to the public this trial, backstabbing and badmouthing some judges to the public, resorting to dirty tricks...like i said before INTIMIDATING and INFLUENCING the court...which is very disrespectful when your the judge as in undermines and underestimate your ability to conduct the trial and hand in a wise ( sometimes unpopular ) verdict...

[Parchie]

How could I describe it?

Inside the courtroom they look weak even meek as a sheep when reprimanded of their inability to push for evidence; in front of the TV klieg lights,they're like victors showing their strength (verbosity).

It's plain and simple that they wanted to win the hearing outside of the courts. They can't fool the lawyers inside the impeachment court, so they will fool the public and try to get a guilty verdict from trial by publicity!

Is the public "dumb, irrational, unable to choose properly, or gullible enough, etc"? That remains to be seen, especially on this case.

[skyion]

I don't always see how the Prosecution from Hepatitis Camp manipulate their yellow zombie viewers on ABiaS as I already boycotted that thing.

but if in case I happen to check on that channel regarding such expected allegation, I'll make sure to recall their advertising sponsors so I would boycott those too.

those into it may also do the same.

[Dr. Richard Espeno]

Originally Posted by wolfdgreat

di ba karapatan naman nila yun?
Ang alam ko kaya nila inurong e "sapat na yung kaso na yun para maipanalo nila ang kaso" at ayon iyon sa kanilang opinion.
Wala akong nakikitang pinapangunahan nila ang korte dun sa statement nila. Ang sinasabi nila e base sa kanilang paniniwala.

karapatan nilang isipin ang gusto nilang isipin, pero wala silang karapatan sabihin yan sa publiko/media habang umaandar pa ang kaso...ang ating mga karapatan ay hindi absolute sir

[s_w_stars]

I can empathize with her frustration. Sen Santiago nailed it in one word: frivolous. I remember another term used by a friend's lawyer, to describe a suit a friend had to face: vexatious litigation (legal action which is brought, regardless of its merits, solely to harass or subdue an adversary.) I can understand her outrage, her sense of frustration for having to put on that robe everytime, and spend time to read pages and pages of something that the prosecutors willy nilly put together, and to pre-empt the Impeachment Court with their pronouncement. Aren't the players in court supposed to refrain from prejudging and commenting on a case?

[Juan Pilgrim]

I do not always find Miriam's tantrums appealing but this time seems to be right on cue.

This proceeding has sunk into an empty charade; Tupas and Aguirre displayed unnecessary childish affectation during
Santiago's speech in the video.

I have the least regards for these kind of people who has nothing but unsubstantiated arrogance and chutzpah!!!

[skyion]

Tupas the son of a corrupt politician gestured before at Atty. Cuevas showing the didn't like being lectured, and this spokesperson of the contemptuous, unethical Yellow Prosecution was showing it again on that video and even made a smirking face.

he manifested the usual arrogance, stupidity typical of a Yellowtar...er pnoy.

[Dr. Richard Espeno]

wag na silang magalit kay Merriam, ipinahatid ko lang yung message na " Gago" yang mga prosecutors.....isipin na lang nila na si Merriam bilang senador ay halal ng buong bayan, at nirerepresent niya kaming mga taong bumuto sa kanya, kaya kami yung nagsabi na "Gago" yang mga prosecutors...

[296619]

@Eastern Dragon, sorry hindi ako brod ni Delimma at nung newly appointed NBI director..

Haha? Political exercise? Haha... So talagang naniniwala kang political exercise or quasi-political ang exercise ang impeachment. Kaya pala hindi marunong ng trial procedure ang mga taong nagsasalita sa prosecution. Katawa naman. Dapat alam mo yun manong Eastern Dragon. Lawyer din po kayo di po ba? Diba nga naglecture dyan si Miriam Santiago kahapon. Kaya pala dinadaan ng prosec sa trial by publicity ang impeachment.

[296619]

May proof naman si Miriam para tawagin o bigkasin ang salitang "GAGO". Saan, ka naman. Lahat naman ng proc nakakaintindi ng batas pero kung humarap sa impeachment court parang hindi naman at parang ginawang laro ang trial. Tama naman si Miriam sa mga presumptions, ang pagbatikos nya sa mga actuations ng active prosec lawyers. Binabalewala ang mga procedures na inilagay ng batas para mapangalagaan ang substantial rights ng tao.

[Eastern Dragon]

Originally Posted by 296619

@Eastern Dragon, sorry hindi ako brod ni Delimma at nung newly appointed NBI director..

Haha? Political exercise? Haha... So talagang naniniwala kang political exercise or quasi-political ang exercise ang impeachment. Kaya pala hindi marunong ng trial procedure ang mga taong nagsasalita sa prosecution. Katawa naman. Dapat alam mo yun manong Eastern Dragon. Lawyer din po kayo di po ba? Diba nga naglecture dyan si Miriam Santiago kahapon. Kaya pala dinadaan ng prosec sa trial by publicity ang impeachment.

of course, those who are insisting that the impeachment process is a criminal trial and needs proof beyond reasonable doubt is conditioning the public to insist on a level of evidence not required. simple, if it is a criminal case, with strict adherence to rules on technicality, then, why is the punishment removal from office and not imprisonment? this is something that people need to understand.

prosecution members are lawyers who have not practiced in years, kaya expected yan that they are not as sharp. parang basketbolista din yan na hindi na nakapaglaro ng sampong taon, you might know the basic but the intricacies and dexterity, nakakalimutan mo na.

publicity is part and parcel of trial my friend, without publicity, how can you then sway public opinion. and lets not sanctimonious here, what side was it again who called for a PRESSCON to announce that senator judges are being offered 100m per vote.

both parties are guilty of it. anyone claiming otherwise needs to have his head examined.