Need for North East England's own sub-forum?

[bobalania]

Great, but it seems like things aren't likely to happen any time soon.....

[Newcastle Historian]

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Then, on March 9th 2009, a NEW thread was started, called :

"Petition for Newcastle & Gateshead sub-forum" . . .

The above 'thread' could not be transferred into our sub-forum (when we eventually got it) as it is in the "Forum Issues" section of SSC, whereas we are in the "Projects & Construction" section of SSC.

However, I can transfer some (a few) of the most salient 'posts' from that thread, so that we have the full story of how we got our sub-forum by 14th October 2009.

It was all started off by Chris (bigchrisfgb) on the date I mentioned above - March 9th 2009 . . .

Originally Posted by bigchrisfgb

This is for a petition for a Newcastle&Gateshead sub-forum, instead of the thread that it has.

The sub-forum would have Newcastle&Gateshead developement thread, Tyne tunnel thread, Tyne and Wear Metro thread and other threads within it.

Newcastle is a "core" city within the UK, it also has a similar population to Liverpool which has it's own sub-forum.

Their are many developements goig on in Newcastle&Gateshead, aswell as the Tyneside area.
Some of these have been on hold (untill the credit crunch ends), some are being developed as we speak, and others are at the planning stages.

So calling all mods, please give us our own sub-forum.

Originally Posted by Boards

Been quite a few new NE based posters recently.

Around 5000 posts with a few of the NE threads combined, reckon it would soon overtake the Wales forum if created, the NE posters are fairly active.

Not entirely related but the Hull development thread has more posts than the entire Wales forum by quite a margin.

Originally Posted by b4mmy

North east, to include hull as well

Originally Posted by Leeds No.1

I don't really think it needs one. There isn't enough construction going on to warrant one. If it must have one though, it should be for the North East- all of Tyne and Wear and Durham, not just Newcastle and Gateshead.

Originally Posted by toonlad

I think Tyneside should have its own forum, not the North East. Many of you may have noticed that there have been issues in the past of geordies trolling mackem threads and vice versa... might get a bit tense!! As for all the people who claim 'there isnt much contruction happening' well all I can say is there were a lot of stationary cranes and half-finished sites in Leeds and Manchester last week, seems to me this is symptomatic of the recession, but things will no doubt pick up.

On the other side of the coin you could argue that Newcastle has probably the most exciting city centre developments outside of London in the pipeline (not long now, fingers crossed) with the East Pilgrim Street development, Science Central Stephenson Quarter and the £500m Metro Reinvigoration.... in the next 5-10 years the city will be hopefully be transformed.

Originally Posted by TownPlanningNE

I definately think Newcastle should have it's own sub forum. As has been stated many times, the single thread is not adequate, especially due to discussions jumping from one thing to another. Not to mention trying to access information from a previous date. A sub forum could contain developments from Newcastle, Gateshead, North and South Tyneside.

Originally Posted by bigchrisfgb

Named, Newcastle and Tyneside forum, having threads for each town, I.E. Whitley Bay (which is now starting to see lots of regeneration) North and South Shields, Felling, Hexham (not Tyneside but it's on Tynedale/Northumberland), plus many others, come on mods, make it happen please.

Originally Posted by tcollins

Just having a single thread hides the breadth of discussion that occurs, and as has been mentioned above, it means that a topic gets quickly lost and it's very difficult to follow a single development or area.

Originally Posted by gothicform

well if somene can suggest how to organise the forums then???

Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

A NEWCASTLE Sub-forum is an excellent idea.

Who can I write to, to press the case for one?

Originally Posted by bigchrisfgb

Gothic is the guy to go to.

Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

What I have in mind (and have written to Gothic about, but I don't know how much 'say' I will have in it) is that the proposed North East & Humberside Sub Forum (when you open it) will present you initially with something like another four mini-sub forums.

They, I have suggested, be titled . . .

NEWCASTLE METRO AREA
For Newcastle, N Tyneside, Gateshead, S Tyneside, South Northumberland

SUNDERLAND & WASHINGTON
For Sunderland, Washington, County Durham

TEESSIDE
For Middlesbrough, Stockton, N Yorks

HUMBERSIDE
For Hull and surrounding areas

. . and that within those suggested four 'mini-sub forums' (certainly in the Newcastle one) our multitudinous long-wanted "individual specific-subject threads" will be listed to out hearts content. The 'Newcastle' mini-forum I have suggested be titled what I was originally campaigning for (if you remember) our actual main Sub Forum to be called, when it was going to be just us alone.

Certainly, if you look at the other UK Sub-Forums, many of them have 'inner/mini' sub-forums, each full of threads, within them - so what I suggest should be quite practicable . . .

What do you all think?

AND THE REST IS HISTORY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[legolamb]

Interesting slant on how the north-east subforum came into being.

Shame it's not entirely correct and neglects to mention the years of campaigning by Hull forumers previous to this. Like on here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=493570&page=3 with the first post by me about the matter dated July 2007. If you do read thqat thread from start to finish it is perfectly clear that the idea formed from discussions between forumers from cities all over the UK putting forward a variety of different possible ways to move forward and improve the opportunities for multiple thread discussions.

No matter how certain Newcastle forumers like to spin things, we have not landed with a north-east forum due to some noble, brave crusade by them for which we must all be eternally thankful. Sorry.

There has always been a bit of a self congratulatory back-slapping trait for claiming sole credit for this from time to time from some of the newcastle posters on here and it irks a bit to be honest.

[Newcastle Historian]

Originally Posted by legolamb

Interesting slant on how the north-east subforum came into being.

Shame it's not entirely correct and neglects to mention the years of campaigning by Hull forumers previous to this. Like on here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=493570&page=3 with the first post by me about the matter dated July 2007. If you do read thqat thread from start to finish it is perfectly clear that the idea formed from discussions between forumers from cities all over the UK putting forward a variety of different possible ways to move forward and improve the opportunities for multiple thread discussions.

No matter how certain Newcastle forumers like to spin things, we have not landed with a north-east forum due to some noble, brave crusade by them for which we must all be eternally thankful. Sorry.

There has always been a bit of a self congratulatory back-slapping trait for claiming sole credit for this from time to time from some of the newcastle posters on here and it irks a bit to be honest.

I was aware of two threads about the desire and intention to try to form a North East Sub-Forum.

One was called "Need for North East England's own Sub-Forum" and eminated from Teesside. That thread is THIS ONE here (that we are writing on) and was transferred here by SSC when our sub-forum came into being in October 2009.

The other one was called "Petition for Newcastle & Gateshead sub-forum" and eminated from Newcastle. Seemingly, it could not be transferred here in October 2009, as it was/is part of a different discrete area of Skyscraper City. So, the continued efforts of forumers on that second thread had never been fully represented in our new sub-forum, until I (as I explained in my post of earlier today) was able to transfer "a few" selected posts from that thread, to complete the story, from where the Middlesbrough/Teesside thread left off.

If there were any other efforts to get a sub forum for North East England made by others (not currently represented in this thread) then all anyone had to do was to write about them on here!!!

I would have loved to know about them, and reading through the thread you have now quoted, it would have been (as it now IS) a FANTASTIC addition to the "record of events leading to the forum" that this thread has turned out to be.

There has been (on my part) NO ATTEMPT to "spin" any credit for the North East finally getting a sub-forum, for Newcastle or Teesside, or anyone else.

The picture (the 'story') is now more complete than it has ever been, after the inclusion of the LINK to the earlier thread that you included legolamb . . .

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=493570&page=3

Finally, as the Moderator for ALL of the North East England Forums (even though I was and am a primarily Newcastle "poster") I am here to (amongst other things) ensure a fair representation in every aspect of the life of our forum, to posters from all parts of the combined forum.

If you felt like this, a "PM" to me would have been very much appreciated, as I do feel that it does not help for any of us to publicly participate in any form of inter-forum rivalry, other than occasionally "in fun", perhaps.

If you want to discuss this further, perhaps the PM route?

[bigchrisfgb]

I am aware of previouse attempts from posters from Hull in a petition for their own Sub-Forum, however at the time I think that petition was fairly silent or dead. However I do think it had an important role in the creation of the Sub-Forum as the idea to include Hull in the Sub-Forum came from the mods as I understand it. So I think Hull's previouse petitions were well remembered and I think to the idea of the mods at the time, the idea to create a Sub-Forum for 2 cities that had petitioned for it, and everywhere inbetween them was more less of a risk if they were two cities with their own Sub-Forums.

Anyway I think we have proved our cases that we earned a Sub-Forum now, and the matter is now dead matter and we can now look ahead to better things.

All ready we have seen our Sub-Forum break record.expectations and other Sub-Forums post count, so now lets hope our cities start to have more positive developements in future for us to continue to grow.