MANDALUYONG | California Garden Square [res]

[jenko]

guys, my sis will be accompanied by my agent and a certain engr of Empire East this coming saturday for a thorough inspection of our unit. i told her to take some digital shots of the unit pra mkita ko nmn..hopefully everything will be according to the specs specified on our contract. i was able to buy my unit last May 2004..so almost 1 year n rin ang binubuno ko....2 more yrs to go!!

[Carol]

Originally Posted by jenko

guys, my sis will be accompanied by my agent and a certain engr of Empire East this coming saturday for a thorough inspection of our unit. i told her to take some digital shots of the unit pra mkita ko nmn..hopefully everything will be according to the specs specified on our contract. i was able to buy my unit last May 2004..so almost 1 year n rin ang binubuno ko....2 more yrs to go!!

Please see my post here for some tips in inspecting your unit. Hope you find them useful.

[dudie]

Originally Posted by jenko

guys, my sis will be accompanied by my agent and a certain engr of Empire East this coming saturday for a thorough inspection of our unit. i told her to take some digital shots of the unit pra mkita ko nmn..hopefully everything will be according to the specs specified on our contract. i was able to buy my unit last May 2004..so almost 1 year n rin ang binubuno ko....2 more yrs to go!!

Sana i-post mo ang pics dito so we can see it naman. Isama na rin ang pic ng building from the outside at ng loob ng vicinity. TY

[jenko]

Originally Posted by dudie

Sana i-post mo ang pics dito so we can see it naman. Isama na rin ang pic ng building from the outside at ng loob ng vicinity. TY

i will post the pics here if ever my sis won't forget to take some shots of the unit...and hopefully she won't forget to bring her digicam..

Carol..tnx for the tips..really appreciate it! emailed my sis bout it.

[dudie]

Hi Jenko,
Kumusta na ang turn-over? I hope everything turned out very well. Did ur sis give u an update on the construction of the amenities and the pool? Kwento naman.

[jenko]

Originally Posted by dudie

Hi Jenko,
Kumusta na ang turn-over? I hope everything turned out very well. Did ur sis give u an update on the construction of the amenities and the pool? Kwento naman.

guys,

sensya n sa late reply..got busy with work. well the inspection of my unit turned out to be a bummer! why?? kse according to my sister..it wasn't ready yet and andami pa nila dapat ayusin...cracked tiles..window locks...paint...bathroom drainage...leaks..in short it's not what i expected it to be...engineer vibar of CGS told my sis that they will fix all the flaws in time for their next scheduled visit. d ko na muna post yung pics kse its not worth your while looking at it! maybe next time pag medyo presentable n yung unit. bout the amenities and the pool...no idea man! i'll ask my sis bout it next time i call her.

[akaflores]

This is really scary. Is this an isolated incident or is it happenly to all the units? Being a megaworld development, I would expect them to be more professional and keep to their end of the bargain.

[dudie]

Originally Posted by jenko

guys,

sensya n sa late reply..got busy with work. well the inspection of my unit turned out to be a bummer! why?? kse according to my sister..it wasn't ready yet and andami pa nila dapat ayusin...cracked tiles..window locks...paint...bathroom drainage...leaks..in short it's not what i expected it to be...engineer vibar of CGS told my sis that they will fix all the flaws in time for their next scheduled visit. d ko na muna post yung pics kse its not worth your while looking at it! maybe next time pag medyo presentable n yung unit. bout the amenities and the pool...no idea man! i'll ask my sis bout it next time i call her.

Sorry to hear about the problems. But that is not an isolated case. Even other developments would have something similar like yours. the key is to make sure that we are very thorough with the inspection and not to accept the unit until everything in the contract has been met. Hope that it will be a better experience the next time around. Good luck!

[Dvorak]

Yup.. even units turned over by Ayala land can be like this.. you just really have to check the unit before you accept it.

Originally Posted by dudie

Sorry to hear about the problems. But that is not an isolated case. Even other developments would have something similar like yours. the key is to make sure that we are very thorough with the inspection and not to accept the unit until everything in the contract has been met. Hope that it will be a better experience the next time around. Good luck!

[akaflores]

Thanks. It is a shame though that they are willing to have a walk through or final inspection before it is truly finish. They are just wasting the time and effort of both buyer and seller.

Maybe they have to do it just to be on the record that they delivered on time. If so, that record must be more important than their reputation.

[dudie]

Originally Posted by akaflores

Thanks. It is a shame though that they are willing to have a walk through or final inspection before it is truly finish. They are just wasting the time and effort of both buyer and seller.

Maybe they have to do it just to be on the record that they delivered on time. If so, that record must be more important than their reputation.

I dont think that they would intentionally do it that way. Kahit dito naman sa US eh ganun din. My walk thru bago i-turn over sa iyo ang bahay or a condo that you are buying. It is just that things beyond anyone's control do happen so the walk thru gives you that protection. Delivery tme is based on your acceptance of the unit on turn-over date. So kung hindi mo tinanggap, its not considered delivered.

[akaflores]

I am in the US too and gone through 10-20 walkthroughs in my life. You might see some imperfections and other small problems. Pero kung "andami pa nila dapat ayusin...cracked tiles..window locks...paint...bathroom drainage...leaks..", they were really not ready for inspection &/or the quality of work was subpar.

Ano pa kaya ang subpar na hinid visible sa inspection? I hope there are 5-10 yr. warranties on some inherent pieces of the property. Otherwise, lawsuit is in place...and both you and I know the outcome of that.

Developers, show some attitude and don't turn off current and future investors.

[jenko]

Originally Posted by akaflores

I am in the US too and gone through 10-20 walkthroughs in my life. You might see some imperfections and other small problems. Pero kung "andami pa nila dapat ayusin...cracked tiles..window locks...paint...bathroom drainage...leaks..", they were really not ready for inspection &/or the quality of work was subpar.

Ano pa kaya ang subpar na hinid visible sa inspection? I hope there are 5-10 yr. warranties on some inherent pieces of the property. Otherwise, lawsuit is in place...and both you and I know the outcome of that.

Developers, show some attitude and don't turn off current and future investors.

guys..just an update...my sister called up Empire East to re-schedule their next visit...i told her kse to go back there at the end of this month so as to give them ample time to fix all the problems. hopefully everything will be ok by then. i really hope that there are no hidden problems as what akaflores mentioned because they only give one year warranty on all the other fixtures from the date of acceptance.

sensya n kung may na-offend dito sa forum...it wasn't intended to turn off current and future investors but mainly to give them an idea of the real picture. Im certain that Empire East will do their part in fixing this kind of problems as soon as possible so as not to turn away other investors.

Peace!!

[akaflores]

jenko hindi mo kasalanan. offended lang ako kasi just like you, i am also an investors of 2 condo preselling. Akala ko after many years of absence diyan sa pinas, nagbago na ang business climate/practice and they have learned to have pride on their work. this hope was my basis of investing there. Pareho pa rin pala ng dati.

let us just hope walang hidden problem. just always be on top of things like checking for cracking sounds and pipes, unusual stuffs and most especially, electrical stuff.

best of luck to all.

[Lili]

Jenko,

It's good that you are posting these experiences here. It might help the industry because the real estate market is also dictated by the demand for it. If investors are turned off because of these problems then the developers and sellers will have to improve the quality of their buildings/units/facilities and the delivery of their service.

[barcat]

These walk-thru problems should be brought to the attention of the developers. Specially when their client and those invited for inspection are coming from overseas. It will be a great hassle and inconvinience if these developers sets up a "final" walk-thru on a "half-ass" (excuse my lingo)completed unit. These developers should be very sensitive to this issue if they want to sell their products here abroad.

AkaFlores - did you say you got another unit? I visited the last Robinson tour in SF and was told they will break ground on FAP this 4th quarter.

[akaflores]

Hey Tony! Long time bro.

Oo nga, when we do our walkthrough sa fifth, sabay tayo. Always the power of many!!! But let us make sure when they call us, we make them aware we are expats and need the unit close to perfect, not "half-ass". Mayroon nga bang such a thing as half-ass :-) ?

ps. i bought a studio at parkview 2.

[barcat]

Sinabi mo, Gilbert. Ya sabay nga tayo. Saan yung Parkview? Sa Eastwood ba? Mukhang maganda rin as investment yung sa Pioneer. Around P1.5 lang ang 1 bdrm.

[Lili]

Sus! Magkakilala pala kayo. I agree the developers should be particularly sensitive to these concerns, especialy by expats who are their target market.

[akaflores]

tsong,

easy lang sa pagbili, lalu na ang ganitong balita. Pero kung talagang gusto mo, i think the best investment to do is buy sa probinsya mo sa Pampanga. I think the move is going North.