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Old November 21st, 2011, 11:15 AM   #121
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Have you seen the first post in the Roadside rest area thread?
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it is shiny, here on this pic you can see it better, and now it s even shinier

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Old November 21st, 2011, 03:03 PM   #122
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but most of the roads looks like this without barriers

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If the median is wide I don't see a problem, especially if the road isn't especially busy. Rural interstates in the USA are often like that, and South Africa, Australia and other countries with plenty of space follow the American example too. I guess in Europe there is less space so they can't spare that land.

In any case, I like the look of it, it looks more rural than suburban. Suburban-style road out in the countryside looks a bit wrong.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 03:12 PM   #123
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I guess in Europe there is less space so they can't spare that land.
Space is not an issue. Unnecessary high expropriation costs are.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 03:18 PM   #124
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If the median is wide like that, I think is better if there aren't crash barriers. You can turn on the grass if suddenly happens something ahead while you are driving. With crash barriers instead you can't, you destroy all the right side of the car continuing to stay on the lane and maybe hit the car ahead. Another benefit is that if happens an accident forming a long queue, you can deviate the traffic in the other carriage easily. With crash barriers is not possible and car must stay on the busy carriage for hours and hours
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Old November 21st, 2011, 03:26 PM   #125
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I do not find it save to have no crashbarriers even on such a road. With high speed a car can easily rach the lanes that go the other direction, so not having any crashbarriers there is not very save in my opinion.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 04:53 PM   #126
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I do not find it save to have no crashbarriers even on such a road. With high speed a car can easily rach the lanes that go the other direction, so not having any crashbarriers there is not very save in my opinion.
Especially if they are shiny Radi.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 05:16 PM   #127
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Some countries are switching over from steel to concrete crash barriers as the latter are safer. Both the UK and South Africa traditionally used the steel type (the UK everywhere, SA mostly in urban and suburban settings, with an open median in rural settings) but on new or reconstructed roads use a concrete one.

I think the thinking is that a vehicle hitting a concrete barrier at a slight angle will bounce off, while a steel barrier can become embedded in the vehicle.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:17 PM   #128
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So all we need is shiny concrete. (Or shiny paint.)
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:22 PM   #129
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These crash-barriers were shiny enough and the distance between the two sides of the roundabout was not small... But still it was not enough for a drunken bentley driver, who though he was flying, not driving... And actually he did fly some 10-15 meters







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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:22 PM   #130
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mmm Don't think we Belgians have money to paint our concrete barriers though
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:23 PM   #131
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mmm Don't think we Belgians have money to paint our concrete barriers though
But at least you can put on them some hyper-shiny reflectors
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:26 PM   #132
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You wouldn't be able to see them at night, though, now that the Belgians have turned the lights off. ;-)
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:29 PM   #133
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Still, I hope drivers are not obliged to drive with their car's headlights off too?
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:34 PM   #134
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True....
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:37 PM   #135
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These crash-barriers were shiny enough and the distance between the two sides of the roundabout was not small... But still it was not enough for a drunken bentley driver, who though he was flying, not driving... And actually he did fly some 10-15 meters







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Were is that, Goze Delchev? Razlog 33 km, Blagoevgard 67
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:47 PM   #136
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Maybe you really need glasses... (just joking, no offence)
Actually it says Pernik 22, Blagoevgrad 97
It's on Sofia's south belt of the Ring Road, the junction Dragalevtsi.
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sorry, and yes I do need glasses.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:58 PM   #138
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You wouldn't be able to see them at night, though, now that the Belgians have turned the lights off. ;-)
Belgians turned off lights on motorways? When?
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Old November 21st, 2011, 08:12 PM   #139
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It was in the news a few months ago. There must be stuff in the Belgium thread. Just on less-heavily-traveled stretches.
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green = permanent lighting
orange = dynamic lighting
red = no lighting

However there is a problem as Belgian road markings and reflective signs are very inferior.
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