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Old July 15th, 2010, 02:19 PM   #261
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Hotel Pennsylvania is One Giant Step Closer to Demolition

If approved by the City Council, the new 15 Penn Plaza office tower will become one of the tallest buildings in the city.

July 14, 2010 8:04pm
By Jill Colvin

MANHATTAN — It looks like lights out for Hotel Pennsylvania.

The City Planning Commission voted unanimously Wednesday in favor of razing the storied hotel to make way for a new Vornado Realty office tower, despite fierce opposition by Community Board 5.

If the decision is approved by the City Council, the new 1,200-foot 15 Penn Plaza tower will become one of the tallest buildings in the city and add nearly two million square feet of commercial floor space to midtown, according to an environmental impact statement filed with the commission.

The project also includes the re-opening of an underground passageway under the south side of 33rd Street, which will connect the Sixth and Seventh Avenue subway lines as well as the PATH trains so commuters no longer have to transfer outside.

Planning Commission Chair Amanda Burden said the property, directly across from Penn Station and Madison Square Garden, is an "ideal location for high density development."

"At nearly 80,000 square feet, the site offers an opportunity for precisely the type of well-designed…office building that New York City needs to stay globally competitive," she said before casting a 'yea' vote.

Vornado Realty Trust, which acquired full rights to the hotel in 1999, would not comment on the decision.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 03:33 PM   #262
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Planning Commission Chair Amanda Burden said the property, directly across from Penn Station and Madison Square Garden, is an "ideal location for high density development."
and Tower Verre isnt for her i guess
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Old July 15th, 2010, 08:41 PM   #263
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Old July 15th, 2010, 08:42 PM   #264
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Good news. Hopefully the project is actually approved, and that has the specified height
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Old July 15th, 2010, 08:45 PM   #265
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Penn Plaza tower OK'd
By TOM TOPOUSIS

Last Updated: 6:59 AM, July 15, 2010

At least that's what the developer of a proposed behemoth of a tower on the site of the Hotel Pennsylvania is hoping now that city planners yesterday approved zoning changes needed to build a skyscraper taller than the Chrysler Building.

The approvals more than double the size of a building that could go up on Seventh Avenue, between 33rd and 32nd Streets, where developer Vornado wants to build as much as 2.83 million square feet of office space.

Final approval rests with the City Council.

No construction is expected until Vornado signs a major tenant for the project.

Planning Commissioner Amanda Burden praised the proposed tower, citing its location across Seventh Avenue from the key transit hub of Penn Station.

The tower, with 67 floors and up to 1,216 feet, would be the city's third tallest after the Empire State and Bank of America buildings. But completion in 2013 of 1 World Trade Center, formerly known as the Freedom Tower, would bump the Penn Plaza tower down to fourth place.



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Old July 15th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #266
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Now we're waiting for final approval. Does anyone know the date that the project will be elected by the City Council?
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Old July 16th, 2010, 11:26 PM   #267
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Good to see that this big hurdle has been taken. Hopefully, the final approvel will come soon.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 01:25 AM   #268
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If anybody wants apart of hotel Penn, then they better get it now. Because its going to be gone before you know it.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 10:32 AM   #269
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epic win for new york!!
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Old July 17th, 2010, 07:50 PM   #270
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crikey - this one passed me by. quite a beast isn't it? As Londoner where the tall building policy is quite restrictive and focused on 'clusters' of tall towers (City of London, Canary Wharf etc etc), it seems alien that you can plonk a 350m+ tower down whereever you like. Does anyone think its a tad close to ESB, or is that not an issue and the ESB is not a sacred cow to stand alone as a midtown totem?
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Old July 17th, 2010, 08:05 PM   #271
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well they can't just drop, skyscraper where ever they want. And no its not to close to ESB.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 11:26 PM   #272
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It's no closer to the ESB than any of the skyscrapers in Midtown. People are going to have to get used to the idea that Manhattan's west side is going to be where all the new skyscrapers go up. That's the result of the rezoning.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 12:49 AM   #273
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there pretty damn close, king kong could jump from ESB to get to it lol.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 01:12 PM   #274
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there pretty damn close, king kong could jump from ESB to get to it lol.
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on topic. i'm pretty sure this tower will get approved by the city council, everyone seems to be happy except the NIMBYs of course.
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Shouldn't the thread title be changed to "371m | 1216ft | 67 fl"? Or is that NY Post link not a reliable enough source?

As for NIMBY resistance, I figure they're boo-hoo-ing that the ESB will lose its iconic status if there's other skyscrapers rising around it? Hogwash, I say. They could build three Burj Dubais in midtown and the ESB would still be an iconic building. It's a timeless milestone in architecture and could not be diminished in symbolic value for Manhattan. But you all know that already, I just thought I'd add my two cents.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 02:44 PM   #276
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Shouldn't the thread title be changed to "371m | 1216ft | 67 fl"? Or is that NY Post link not a reliable enough source?

As for NIMBY resistance, I figure they're boo-hoo-ing that the ESB will lose its iconic status if there's other skyscrapers rising around it? Hogwash, I say. They could build three Burj Dubais in midtown and the ESB would still be an iconic building. It's a timeless milestone in architecture and could not be diminished in symbolic value for Manhattan. But you all know that already, I just thought I'd add my two cents.
there are two possible options:
- the single tenant tower (365m)
- the multi tenant tower (371m)

maybe this will help you..

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=150
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=147
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=148

and this...

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there are two version, the single tenant version and the multi tenant version:
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http://nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/env_revi...n_deis_noc.pdf

Single tenant version:


Multi tenant version:

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Old July 18th, 2010, 08:43 PM   #277
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the shorter heights is approve. We're waiting for the taller, one to get the go ahead. I'm digging the design and it's a supertall some happy.
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Oh yeah, now that you mention it I remember the thing about the two versions from earlier in this thread.
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New York is really getting back into the swing of building towers with some serious height. This is more like it!
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Yep. I hope that some time soon we'll see some more projects in Brooklyn and Queens, not necessarily supertalls (though that would be even cooler), but at least some projects above 200m, especially in Brooklyn. The thing I like about NYC is that it doesn't just have one skyline like Chicago or LA, but several distinct (and huge ones), so far in Lower Manhattan, Midtown Manhattan, and on a slightly smaller scale in Brooklyn. And Jersey City's skyline's right around the other side of the river. Gives it an awe inspiring appearance overall.
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