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Old August 30th, 2010, 04:24 PM   #461
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If they all came to fruition I think New York would once again become the UNDISPUTED skyscraper capital of the world.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 04:54 PM   #462
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They all will come to fruition because air rights in NY are worth their weight in platinum. When a property has air rights to build tall, it is not squandered.

This list leaves out a lot of supertalls that will be built on the far west side near the Hudson Yards, such as Sherwood Equities tower which will be around 400m on 34th and 10th.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 01:00 AM   #463
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so judging by that article i'm guessing a lot of beautiful, historic buildings will be replaced by generic skyscrapers with inferior designs in coming years (though i love this one)
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Old August 31st, 2010, 01:09 AM   #464
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I love 15 penn plaza, some may disagree with it's location but with ESB facing up to a far adjacent redeveloped WTC site, this will stand by it's side as a Bulwark. Exciting times for NYC.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 01:34 AM   #465
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so judging by that article i'm guessing a lot of beautiful, historic buildings will be replaced by generic skyscrapers with inferior designs in coming years (though i love this one)
Most of the sites are already clear of any buildings.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 04:19 AM   #466
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Most of the sites are already clear of any buildings.
"At the same time, backers of these projects are pointing out that the city needs to modernize office space to preserve its competitive position against other global cities like London and Hong Kong. In a letter to shareholders this year Vornado Chairman Steve Roth said the 40 million square feet of office space along Park Avenue from Grand Central Terminal to 59th Street is, on average, 45 years old. He called on the city to allow for denser construction on the avenue to give builders an incentive to tear down old buildings and create new and larger towers."
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Old August 31st, 2010, 04:36 AM   #467
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so judging by that article i'm guessing a lot of beautiful, historic buildings will be replaced by generic skyscrapers with inferior designs in coming years (though i love this one)
Most of those will rise on empty lots on the far west side and on platforms to be built over rail yards (not including the Hudson Yards). This area, to this day, consists of dumpy buildings used for auto repair etc.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 04:39 AM   #468
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"Finding a tenant to pay the right price could take years" WTF??? I thought they said NYC wasn't building Class A space fast enough.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 05:03 AM   #469
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"Finding a tenant to pay the right price could take years" WTF??? I thought they said NYC wasn't building Class A space fast enough.
That's correct. There is a lot of demand for space right now. I would not be surprised if Vornado announces an anchor tenant within six months and starts demolition in 2011.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 05:36 AM   #470
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The thread title needs to desperately be changed
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Old September 1st, 2010, 08:41 PM   #471
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some funny stuff...

http://www.nypost.com/opinion/cartoons/delonas.htm



http://therealdeal.com/newyork/artic...valries-rev-up
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Old September 1st, 2010, 09:07 PM   #472
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Cool. I'll change the title right away. Thanks for all the activity and news people! Keep it up
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They better built this thing!

From: http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2010/0...ering.php#more

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Old September 2nd, 2010, 10:22 PM   #474
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It's great how it's open from 3 streets..Makes it look even more amazing..
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 11:14 PM   #475
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that is awesome it would make me go to newyork
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Old September 3rd, 2010, 05:36 PM   #476
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so judging by that article i'm guessing a lot of beautiful, historic buildings will be replaced by generic skyscrapers with inferior designs in coming years (though i love this one)
At least they will demolish Penn Hotel to build a +300m skyscraper...

Drake Hotel was demolished to build a +200m skyscraper. (wich is an empty plot for 3 years now.)



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Old September 4th, 2010, 02:02 AM   #477
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Tragic. What a beautiful building.
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Old September 9th, 2010, 04:44 AM   #478
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so judging by that article i'm guessing a lot of beautiful, historic buildings will be replaced by generic skyscrapers with inferior designs in coming years (though i love this one)
fortunately not. most of these buildings will be build on empty spots. For 99 church street they raised an very generic office building. so it is not a big loss. This one in particular is a bit more complicated since there is a historic hotel there.
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Old September 9th, 2010, 03:04 PM   #479
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I usually stay at the Affinia that is about a block away. Honestly, the last time I walked by the hotel Pennsylvania I though "what a shit hole, how does something so ill cared for exist in this city"? The entry is this weird red box that doesn't fit with the original design. It looks run down. The giant painted pillars that dead-end into the box. It doesn't interact with the street well at all. Worst of all it is what everyone who comes out of Penn station or comes to NY for an event at MSG gets to look at.

I do believe in historic preservation, but not every thing should be deemed historic. The historic designation should be reserved for the most iconic old buildings not all old buildings. Can't wait for the new building.
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Some picture of the Penn Hotel?
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