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Old January 4th, 2009, 04:38 PM   #101
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Love the pic at the top, I can see the NEW YORKER hotel on the right where I have stayed before, great art deco hotel. Check out my model please guys, scale models on the forum, Gregs model, and please leave a comment, thanx.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 11:06 PM   #102
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These two are ugly as hell, atleast from above view, and should be demolished instead!


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Old January 5th, 2009, 01:01 AM   #103
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Singer had very small floorplates and was thus unprofitable.
however it could easily have been converted to boutique office suites.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 10:48 AM   #104
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These two are ugly as hell, atleast from above view, and should be demolished instead!
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You could add easy another building to the two...

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Old January 5th, 2009, 01:37 PM   #105
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there many other ugly buildings there
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Old January 5th, 2009, 10:17 PM   #106
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NY is full of them but they make the magnificent skyline.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 10:42 PM   #107
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however it could easily have been converted to boutique office suites.
Highly unlikely in the 60's... Today, however, it would surely be turned into luxury apartments.
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Old January 6th, 2009, 11:35 PM   #108
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i dont think the manhattan mall will be going anywhere soon
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Old January 8th, 2009, 12:50 AM   #109
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NY is full of them but they make the magnificent skyline.
I know

I was saying that even if you wanted to demolish only the ugliest buildings you would have much work to do
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Old January 8th, 2009, 04:40 AM   #110
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You could add easy another building to the two...

The building highlighted by the blue has already been demolished for another tower (I think its 839 Sixth Avenue~42 floors), red is owned by Vornado and I believe that they've said it won't be demolished, and green actually has a street going through it (if you look carefully you'll see 7th Avenue).
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Old January 8th, 2009, 05:05 AM   #111
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The whole block looks crappy to me with slimy stores to boot. Demolish the area and build Grade-A office space. Let's get the ball rolling here.

(...besides Macy's of course)
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Old January 8th, 2009, 08:28 AM   #112
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It's not the inside of the Hotel Pennsylvania that counts. Its exterior is 100 X better than the tacky fat supertall wanna be that is planned to replace it.
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Old January 8th, 2009, 11:54 AM   #113
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and green actually has a street going through it (if you look carefully you'll see 7th Avenue).
As I see-it, 7th Avenue go next to it, not through it...



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Old January 8th, 2009, 12:00 PM   #114
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Instead of demolishing one of the last """affordable""" good hotels in Manhattan they should think about what other shitty looking and less needed buildings aren't worth to last.

BTW: is the current height of 365m somehow approved? Because on the render on the first page it doesn't look like it's that tall.
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Old January 8th, 2009, 07:18 PM   #115
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Wavering Vornado Still Pondering Hotel Penn Takedown:
http://www.observer.com/2008/real-es...ard-demolition
looks like the new york times tower had to much to eat and is about to throw up. other then that it looks good.
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Old January 9th, 2009, 11:07 AM   #116
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Instead of demolishing one of the last """affordable""" good hotels in Manhattan they should think about what other shitty looking and less needed buildings aren't worth to last.

BTW: is the current height of 365m somehow approved? Because on the render on the first page it doesn't look like it's that tall.
all i have heard about this hotel is that its cheap, but its run down, staff is unfriendly, and just a horrible place to stay. my sister stayed there and had nothing nice to say, just that it was close to the Manhattan mall. this hotel is like the hotel figuroa here in LA, run down but no one wants to get rid of it. i say demo both because there is so much more these parcels of land can provide.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:05 PM   #117
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I can't agree to that. I slept there for a week and I liked it. Perhaps it's because we were located over the 10th floor. I heard some complainments before You who also said such things like hair in the bed. May be we had luck with our room. No idea. But one thing I remember was that we had no good view out of the window, because there was a huge wall of a near building.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 02:37 PM   #118
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The site circled in blue in post # 111 already is under development. (As one acn see if one looks closely, most of that site is excavated.) The site circled in green is actually two sites that sit across 7th Avenue from each other. Vornado, the developer of the Hotel Penn project, owns them also and plans to develop them.

The building circled in red is a fine, Pre-WWII structure and should not be razed.

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Old February 4th, 2009, 10:08 PM   #119
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This was posted on 8 Feb. 2009 on curbed.com

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/env_...raft_scope.pdf
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Old February 4th, 2009, 11:11 PM   #120
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I say let them build it, I've been praying for more supertall in NYC since the 90's.
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