BGC | Icon Plaza [40F|mix]

[leechtat]

yes, but would it be like that once it's built. but very nice location indeed. a very catchy avp.

Originally Posted by fort_lover

The balcony is a BIG area.
Ledge is just a SMALL area, enough to step into.

a balcony also has a door. a ledge may also be known as "false balcony". sometimes the ledge is where acu are situated..

@thomasian, follow your dream. your parents will always understand. tara recruit kita. provide me sales and you will get full com.

[anakngpasig]

nice
ang video
but that
didn't
convince
me at all

tee hee

[barukdok]

Originally Posted by thomasian

Not really, this is a serious matter. It's about the rapidly declining quality of real estate agents in the Philippines.

Apparently, not all those who sell real estate properties are smart enough to know that they should represent the product they're selling in the best way possible, even trying to sell a condo using a badly distorted rendering! A lot of them even have questionable grammar and tons of misspellings for the description of the properties they are trying to sell.

Take this for example, quoted from the sulit ad where that badly distorted rendering came from:

(Description of Icon Plaza) "just open the market from june 12 2008"

Ano daw? Would you trust a real estate agent who can't even properly describe what he's selling?

Icon Plaza buyers, beware, choose your agent carefully! Please don't settle for second-rate real estate agents. They need to learn their lesson on taking their craft seriously. The art of selling is not for everyone, and yet a lot of people seem to be joining the bandwagon of selling condominium units.

Guys like these are degrading the industry. I hate them because they are the culprits on why my mom didn't allow me to be part of the real estate industry. She says "bababa lang daw ang tingin sakin ng mga kamag-anak namin", para ano pa daw at pinag-aral pa ako ng college kung magbebenta lang daw ako ng condo? It's so frustrating, I wanted to able to help buyers choose the right property for them, guiding them every step of the way. I wanted to uplift this tarnished industry, but I can't, simply because my mom won't allow me, even threatening me "palalayasin na lang kita kung magbebenta ka rin lang ng condo". Samantalang nung lumayas ako hinanap nila ako kung saan-saan.

Another example of one of those really bad sulit ads posted by second-rate real estate agents:

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/vi...ss+Condominium

Looking for (dapat may "an" dito) affordable condo with in the city?? Escalades is the place you've been looking for.. It is located in 20th Avenue Cubao Quezon City (where are the commas?). Escalades is a class (why not "classy" instead) yet very affordable place to live. It's near the Gate Way (there's no "Gate Way Mall" near this condo, but there's Gateway Mall nearby) Mall, TIP,UP,Miriam College, Ateneo,PUP and LRT/Mrt Stations. Exactly the place for you and your family. For as low as P 9,689.82/month.

many of them aren't even licensed yes, there's a need to professionalize the industry. i can forgive poor english but not ignorance of the industry and the product their selling, or worse deliberately withholding crucial info from prospective clients

[barukdok]

Originally Posted by c0kelitr0

feel ko nga yung mga architects ngayon, di talaga nila passion yung ginagawa nila. real architects are artists at the same time. dapat naman may kunting imagination!

kaya hanga ako sa mga pinoy architects who are innovative and imaginative...they are so rare these days.

same here.

[barukdok]

Originally Posted by thomasian

sa 1:59 ng vid, nakakatakot, may sumabog

[thomasian]

Explosive daw kasi ang design ng Icon Plaza, kaya sumabog!

[barukdok]

[keypool]

Guys,

I suspect that the reason for boxy designs is that it is cheaper to build than those with curves, or lots of protrusions, lesser ek-ek, etc. You can save 2-5% of the cost or thereabouts.

For example, instead of paying 100K per sqm, you only pay 95K to 98K per sqm.

In the Philippines kasi, buyers are very price-elastic. Meaning, location, unit quality and price are first thing that they consider when they buy the unit. Ok lang sa majority ang boxy design basta decent naman ang look and affordable. Unless of course, you are targetting the upper-end market like Pacific Plaza or Shangri-la.

[thomasian]

Boxes also make better use of the alloted FAR, allowing them to have the most floor area in the least number of floors. But that of course is at the expense of aesthetics, with the towers being wall-to-wall with each other.

[barukdok]

Originally Posted by keypool

Guys,

I suspect that the reason for boxy designs is that it is cheaper to build than those with curves, or lots of protrusions, lesser ek-ek, etc. You can save 2-5% of the cost or thereabouts.

For example, instead of paying 100K per sqm, you only pay 95K to 98K per sqm.

In the Philippines kasi, buyers are very price-elastic. Meaning, location, unit quality and price are first thing that they consider when they buy the unit. Ok lang sa majority ang boxy design basta decent naman ang look and affordable. Unless of course, you are targetting the upper-end market like Pacific Plaza or Shangri-la.

no argument about that. the issue is that by calling it ICON Plaza, they're asking for it. if it's an icon, it must live up to it's name -- location-wise, function-wise, aesthetics-wise. from the looks of the design, this project definitely is lightyears away from being an ICON.

[Fluffy]

Yes, we all know that the box is the most simple design that provides more floor space per money spent. The developers of these residential condos don't care as much about the aestetics because they are spending less for the design and providing max floor space. They aren't keeping the building as their own investment, they are selling it. So they make big bucks on maximizing floor space sold while minimizing cost on materials, and the community gets stuck with an eye sore of ugly buildings. The selling point is location, location, location! It may be ugly, but you're in the center. Once the residential condo build and dump slows down, then maybe we can get some companies in there that would build to invest and own their own building, such hotels and commercial buildings. These investors would be keeping their buildings for lease or their own use, so you can expect them to spend more money on investment buildings they own. The point we were trying to get across earlier is that for a masterplanned community, more control should have been set on minimum acceptable design by the BGC architectural committee so that this build and dump, maximize developer's profit by maximizing floor space trend doesn't ruin the aestetics of the entire community. As investor's in BGC, we would want the community to improve, increase value. Some of us even hoped that BGC would become the special place in PI that we can showcase to the world that we're changing, but that doesn't seem to be happening...

[Eriq]

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[--SuperB0y--]

Originally Posted by leechtat

@thomasian, follow your dream. your parents will always understand. tara recruit kita. provide me sales and you will get full com.

i agree! nobody should stop you from doing what you want to do in your life. but finish college first! in the meantime, you can join leechtat as a sideline.


Oppps, sorry OT!

[mendoza.architecture]

..Before making comments about boxes, kindly read the design guidelines of Global City. You might answer your own questions..

[pau_p1]

Originally Posted by maczilla

Has anyone noticed it? but i think the design has been improved compared to the renders we've seen here. check out the videos posted above. last few seconds they showed the icon plaza with no bare walls on both sides. radical change from the renders posted previously which showed 2 bare walls on each side.

oo nga noh... anyways.. heto yung clippings from the video of the lot site and yung 'render'

[the_kid]

from the looks of the rendering from the video, the icon plaza actually does not look bad

[Ph Man]

perhaps Xcell learned its lessons from its Icon layout and wants to maximize the usage of lot this time.

[3cr]

I don't know why this Icon Plaza project isn't getting much love. Of course to each his own but I personally don't think it's bad looking, though certainly far from being iconic as others mentioned. Generic as it may, I thought the project design rendering and video pics of this Icon project is not necessarily below that of the Seibu or Fort Palm Spring projects (which are also boxy) imho but the two said projects did come way cheaper compared to this one's asking price (Price/SQM) which could probably be why there is more criticisms with the Icon Plaza project's architecture/design. Anyway perhaps it's just preliminary renderings we've seen so far since the project seems to me atleast is getting tweaked more and more aesthetically pleasing as time passes. Who knows in the end of the day it might not end up being an ugly duckling of a building after all like others said. Guess I'll just reserve my opinion when the final design comes out so that it can get fair judgment. Anyway just my two cents...

[c0kelitr0]

i think reaction lang yan sa name ng project. it does not live to its name.

[TheRick]

TAGUIG CITY, Philippines -- Rally S. Martinez, president and chief executive officer of XCell Property Ventures, Inc., elaborates on the present state of the real estate market, particularly the mid-luxury to luxury niche. In an interview with INQUIRER.net online videographer Janie Christine Octia, Martinez says that the company values the overseas professionals and expatriates market, which he feels have become more intelligent nowadays.

http://www.inquirer.net/vdo/player.php?vid=1393

"More and Longer project is advertise.." comment was interesting...