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Old June 12th, 2008, 02:51 PM   #61
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The stadiums in Euro 2008 are some of the blandest of any tournament. It's difficult to tell which stadium you are in half the time. It seems that with all tournaments now handed out to lesser nations with smaller stadium infrastructure the policy is to build 4 @ 30k, 3 @ 40k then a 50-60k as a centre piece.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 03:16 PM   #62
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The stadiums for 2012 are of the highest quality but im worried that when the stadiums get built that they will be far to big for the clubs who will be playing in them
obviously i dont know for sure seeing as im not from poland or the ukraine but im wondering for those of you who are from there what do you reckon these stadiums will do for the attendances of the teams who will be playing in these stadiums will they be able to fill them?
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Old June 13th, 2008, 07:39 AM   #63
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2012 will have far better stadiums
2008 stadiums are very small and many of them have temporary structures like basle
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Old June 13th, 2008, 11:29 AM   #64
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Wow, nice Stadia, Poland and Ukraine!

I hope you guys a good job in 2012. EURO 2008 has begun with excellent games and no incidents so far, which is just ideal.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 01:39 PM   #65
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Poland and Ukraine will lose Euro 2012
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Old June 13th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #66
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Old June 13th, 2008, 06:10 PM   #67
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The reserve sadiums will be built anyway, u see. There a lot of factors which might put a stadium out of use. Weather for example (pitch becomes unusable).


Also, poland is fighting so that euro will be played on more then 8 stadiums. Same amount of teams but more stadiums.
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is this true? why?
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Old June 13th, 2008, 06:17 PM   #68
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there is a small possibility but i don't think it will happen
media are just looking for cheap sensation
i'm quite sure we will do an excellent competition and everyone will be content
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Old June 13th, 2008, 06:19 PM   #69
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2008 stadiums are very small and many of them have temporary structures like basle
Basel doesn't have temporary structures. They only reduced the distance between the seats a little bit in order to reach a 40'000 capacity while at the same time providing more space to media. Ordinary capacity is 38'500.

Temporary structures are the 2nd tiers in Innsbruck and Klagenfurt. The Salzburg one was also initially planned to be temporary, but will most probably stay.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 08:17 AM   #70
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Basel doesn't have temporary structures. They only reduced the distance between the seats a little bit in order to reach a 40'000 capacity while at the same time providing more space to media. Ordinary capacity is 38'500.

Temporary structures are the 2nd tiers in Innsbruck and Klagenfurt. The Salzburg one was also initially planned to be temporary, but will most probably stay.
isnt the top tier temporary? i saw pillars during a camera shot from the game and assumed it was so
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Old June 14th, 2008, 09:42 AM   #71
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No. it will stay
the facade of the new 3rd tier
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2002/...69fddeba_o.jpg

as you can see its made of concrete
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/86/24...ce90ea24_o.jpg
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Old June 14th, 2008, 12:08 PM   #72
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Poland and Ukraine 2012 absolutely shits on this years stadiums, I like teh stadiums this year, don't get me wrong but the thing is one stadium has a capacity of around 50,000 another above 40,000 and all the rest at above 30,000, too many small stadiums.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #73
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Temporary structures are the 2nd tiers in Innsbruck and Klagenfurt. The Salzburg one was also initially planned to be temporary, but will most probably stay.
Could you give more details on that? Cuase I have read that as mush as Red f#ing Bull tried to leave it, authorities are determined to tear it down.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 12:55 PM   #74
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Sorry but this thread is no more no less then stupid. Why? How you can compare SUI, where football...doesnt exist at all...And POL or UKR are quite big countrys where football is very very popular so...
Recently somebody wrote that if England was the mother of football, Switzerland was the cradle - at least in terms of Europe. English students came to Switzerland and founded here together with their Swiss fellow students the first football clubs of continental Europe. From Switzerland, football was exported to other European countries like Italy, France, Germany, Spain and Bulgaria. Walter Bensemann or Vittorio Pozzo were students in Switzerland and brought football to their home countries. Internazionale, Juventus & FC Barcelona were clubs (co-)founded by Swiss. In Marseille there was in the early years even a club with the name "Stade Hélvetique" which managed to be three times French champion and created the excitement around football in the city from which later Olympique profited from.

And you want to tell me that football in Switzerland doesn't exist at all?

Switzerland won Olympic Silver Medal 1924, had some good results at World Championships with a 2:2 draw against Brasil in 1950 or two victories against Italy in 1954. Three times a Swiss team reached the European Champions Cup Semi-finals (FC Zürich 2x, Young Boys 1x) and three teams reached so far the Champions League (Basel 1x, Grasshoppers 2x, Thun 1x).

And the number of registered players and clubs per population is very high in Switzerland. There are not too many countries where it is higher.

It would have been absolutely no problem to fill a 100'000-stadium for every EURO-game only with Swiss or Austrian people. I am a big football fan but like many of my colleagues I didn't even try to get a ticket cause chances to get one were minimal - more like a lottery. It was much easier during World Cup in Germany where 50'000 Swiss fans supported Switzerland in Westfalenstadion in Dortmund against Togo.

@Michal: concerning Salzburg - that's in a nutshell the situation as you describe it, but I have the impression that the 2nd tier will stay in the end.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 08:04 PM   #75
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Greece is where football originates from... it orignates from ancient greece. so thus... Greece is the mother of football.

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Old June 15th, 2008, 08:12 PM   #76
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Greece is where football originates from... it orignates from ancient greece. so thus... Greece is the mother of football.

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Some say it's ancient Japan or China, but what differnece does it make? it wasn't THE GAME, it was some game with a ball.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 08:18 PM   #77
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No actually it as really similar to football, there was also another game which was like nearly identical to rugby.

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Harpaston is mentioned frequently in classical literature, where it is often referred to as a “very rough and brutal game“. The rules of this ancient sport were quite simple: Points were awarded when a player would cross a goal line by either kicking the ball, running with it across the goal line, or throwing it across the line to another player. The other team’s objective was simply to stop them by any means possible. There was no specific field length, no side line boundaries, no specified number of players per team, only a glaring lack of rules.
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Old June 19th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #78
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Here comes the first outcome for Euro 2012. Congratulations to Ukrainian people and FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk fans!

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