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Old December 26th, 2013, 11:27 PM   #221
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Is there an updated map of the system with this station?
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Amazing station design. Is Netivot also rocket-proof?
I don't think so.
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Old December 27th, 2013, 02:24 PM   #222
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Thank you!

Do you happen to know when the extension to Eilat will be ready?
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Old December 27th, 2013, 03:14 PM   #223
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Do you happen to know when the extension to Eilat will be ready?
No one knows. There has not yet been an approval to actually build the extension to Eilat, though the route was recently approved, so there is progress. Now it's a budgetary question. The rail extension is much needed because the new port in Eilat only makes sense (and will only be approved) if the railroad will be built. Both are very much needed.
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Old December 27th, 2013, 09:38 PM   #224
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No one knows. There has not yet been an approval to actually build the extension to Eilat, though the route was recently approved, so there is progress. Now it's a budgetary question. The rail extension is much needed because the new port in Eilat only makes sense (and will only be approved) if the railroad will be built. Both are very much needed.
The minister of transporation said in a discussion in the Knesset that there is no real intention to build a new port, and that the proposed rail will not even reach the existing port.
Therefore, the main designation of the extension to Eilat has officially changed from cargo to passenger services, and there is no way that it will be economical by itself.
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Old December 27th, 2013, 10:50 PM   #225
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The minister of transporation said in a discussion in the Knesset that there is no real intention to build a new port, and that the proposed rail will not even reach the existing port.
Therefore, the main designation of the extension to Eilat has officially changed from cargo to passenger services, and there is no way that it will be economical by itself.
Unless more Negev communities are built. Israel's population is growing at 1.5-1.8% p/a.
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Old December 28th, 2013, 12:27 AM   #226
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Love Sderot station!
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This is great news for Sderot!

The station appears to be located just west of the intersection of Route 34 and Derech Menachem Begin. This is a bit west of the town center. Is that area going to be developed? I understand there might be reluctance for folks to live on the west side of town. I hope there will be transit-oriented development, as this seems to be commuting distance from Gush Dan.


Can the underground passageway that runs under Route 34 be used to shield passengers during rocket attacks (I hope this won't be necessary). It looks like there are light openings on the side - can those be closed if needed?

Here is a map of the new line from Sderot to Beersheva, which is currently under construction:



Here are photos from Hebrew Wikipedia:





Source: http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%AA%...A8%D7%95%D7%AA
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Old December 28th, 2013, 12:44 AM   #228
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Once this line hooks up to Beersheva, will there be any train service from Dimona to Tel Aviv via Ashkelon? I understand the inland route may be quicker, but Dimona looks so lonely over there.
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Old December 28th, 2013, 03:02 PM   #229
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This is great news for Sderot!

1. The station appears to be located just west of the intersection of Route 34 and Derech Menachem Begin. This is a bit west of the town center. Is that area going to be developed? I understand there might be reluctance for folks to live on the west side of town. I hope there will be transit-oriented development, as this seems to be commuting distance from Gush Dan.


2. Can the underground passageway that runs under Route 34 be used to shield passengers during rocket attacks (I hope this won't be necessary). It looks like there are light openings on the side - can those be closed if needed?
1. There seems to be a plan to develop the area, but it seems to be mainly low-density housing. In addition, a small unenclosed shopping center is supposed to be built near the station.


2. It was designed to shield up to 500 people.

And btw, here is the photo's source:
http://www.tapuz.co.il/forums2008/vi...geid=173073370

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Once this line hooks up to Beersheva, will there be any train service from Dimona to Tel Aviv via Ashkelon? I understand the inland route may be quicker, but Dimona looks so lonely over there.
Probably not. The passenger traffic in dimona is close to none- a few dozen passengers each day. The station is located at the outskirts of the city and the road to Beer-Sheva isn't congested- so the vast majority of the passengers prefer to use the city's bus lines.
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Old December 29th, 2013, 11:37 PM   #230
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The minister of transporation said in a discussion in the Knesset that there is no real intention to build a new port, and that the proposed rail will not even reach the existing port.
Therefore, the main designation of the extension to Eilat has officially changed from cargo to passenger services, and there is no way that it will be economical by itself.
Of course the approved route for the rail line doesn't go to the old port; it goes to the planned location of the new port. Of course there is no plan to build a new port; it would only make sense after approval and funding of the rail line.

This is not a chicken and egg problem. The rail line must be first and that has always been the plan.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 01:43 PM   #231
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Various shots in Hadera-West station this morning

Alstom train:


EURO-3200 pushing:


EURO-3200 pulling Siemens train:


Old G12 at shunting works in Hadera-West container terminal:


EURO-4000 pushing Bombardier train:


Siemens train:
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Old January 6th, 2014, 09:38 PM   #232
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Hi all,

I haven't seen any mention on this forum of the line to Ben Gurion Airport and Modiin being closed due to flood damage.

A couple of weeks ago we had a monster storm here. Jerusalem got about 80cm of snow, which is the heaviest snow fall in Jerusalem for about 100 years. Most of the rest of the country got lots of torrential rain.

The River Shappirim (which I'd never heard of) burst its banks and flooded the railway line. There was apparently water 5 meters deep on the rails for a distance of approx two kilometers.

The whole rail system was in havoc for a few days.

Currently most of the system seems to be running as normal, but there are no trains to Modiin and Ben Gurion Airport. Extra bus services are replacing the trains to Tel Aviv from Modiin. I discovered I have a bus from right outside my house, direct to Tel Aviv, that gets me there in about 25 minutes on my daily commute to Herzliya. I miss the trains - buses are cramped and get stuck in traffic, particularly on the way home in the evening.

THere is no word yet on when services will be restored.

For your entertainment, Israel Railways released this video:

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Old January 9th, 2014, 12:07 AM   #233
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THere is no word yet on when services will be restored.
Services will be restored this Saturday evening, with some speed restrictions on the part of the line which was flooded- so the trip from Modiin to Tel-Aviv will take 3 more minutes than usual for a while.
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How is the building of the new Tel Aviv Jerusalem line proceeding? Wasn't it scheduled for opening next year?
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Services will be restored this Saturday evening, with some speed restrictions on the part of the line which was flooded- so the trip from Modiin to Tel-Aviv will take 3 more minutes than usual for a while.
Woot!
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Old January 9th, 2014, 07:30 PM   #236
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How is the building of the new Tel Aviv Jerusalem line proceeding? Wasn't it scheduled for opening next year?
The new Tel Aviv - Jerusalem line is scheduled to open in 2017.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 05:25 PM   #237
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Beer Sheva central train station, today.



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Old January 23rd, 2014, 09:18 PM   #238
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Old February 9th, 2014, 12:33 PM   #239
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Israel Railways' passenger traffic was 12% higher in 2013 than in 2012

http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-m...ain-1000915547

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"Israel Railways today reported a new record in the number of passengers. According to data for 2013, Israel Railways carried 45 million passengers, 12% more than in 2012. ...

Most of the growth was due to the opening of new lines, such as the line to west Rishon LeZion, the double-tracking of the line to Beersheva, and the commissioning of new rolling stock and locomotives."
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Old April 1st, 2014, 09:20 PM   #240
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First electrification-ready stock delivered to Israel Railways
01 Apr 2014


First six of 72 double-deck coaches which Bombardier Transportation is supplying for Israel Railways electric services


Lod depot

ISRAEL: National railway ISR has taken delivery of the first six of 72 double-deck coaches which Bombardier Transportation is supplying pre-equipped to operate with electric locomotives on routes which are to be electrified at 25 kV 50 Hz.

ISR placed a €122m order for the coaches in September 2012 under an October 2010 framework contract, and the first batch was handed over at Lod depot March 27. Changes include a higher maximum speed of 160 km/h rather than 140 km/h, more advanced braking, control and energy management systems, and compliance with the latest European fire safety standards for operation in long tunnels on the A1 fast line under construction between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

ISR has also awarded Bombardier a contract to modify its existing double-deck fleet for electric operation by 2020.
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