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Old July 12th, 2015, 12:01 PM   #301
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Hi

Some news about the result of the electrification proyect and the purchase of electric locos ?
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Old July 13th, 2015, 08:26 AM   #302
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...and Od-HaSharon - Herzelia segment of TA-University-BB-PT-RA-KS-OH-Raanana-Herzelia loop.
That's the Sharon railway. The Raanana link is an extension. And it's "Hod Hasharon". Also, the part between TA Uni and Rosh Haayin is the "Yarkon Railway", and Rosh Haayin is the link between that railway, the eastern railway, and the Sharon railway.

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Old July 13th, 2015, 08:32 AM   #303
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Hi

Some news about the result of the electrification proyect and the purchase of electric locos ?
Well, in Feb 2016, I think they're finally going to start electrifying. The first line to be electrified would most likely be the Jerusalem railway, unlike what they said about the Carmiel railway, due to disengagement from certain companies, but it is going to happen, and the entire network should be electrified by 2018 I'd estimate. (Not including the new valley line, and the old railway to Jerusalem, and freight only lines).

About the locos, there's an issue with the 2 Chinese companies putting in 2 seperate bids and then combining, so they have more chances of winning, so they might get sued by Alstom and Bombardier who is most likely to win, due to their loco being more capable of managing the DD coaches that also come from them. (They reccomend the TRAXX AC3).
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Old July 13th, 2015, 09:08 AM   #304
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Not including ... the old railway to Jerusalem ...
What will happen to it ? Whole abandon, abandon of the mountain section
only ? Is it already decided ?
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Old July 13th, 2015, 06:07 PM   #305
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What will happen to it ? Whole abandon, abandon of the mountain section
only ? Is it already decided ?
I'm not sure what will happen with the railway part to Bet Shemesh, but the mountain part is definitely not being electrified.

Trains will still go to Bet Shemesh, but most likely, they might close down the mountain part to Jerusalem once the new railway to Jerusalem is completed. Otherwise, they'll use it as an alternative, but I'm not sure.

Future plans might include a tunnel branch from the new railway to the Malcha station, or something like that, but I'm not sure. Also, the railway might extend from Binyanei Hauma to Mamila (Old city area).
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Old July 15th, 2015, 06:16 PM   #306
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Israel railways just disqualified CNR subsidiary from the tender for electric locos.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 06:32 PM   #307
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Here's my version of the Israel railways future plans map. I didn't make it perfect, and I didn't understand the plans for most of the Judea and Samaria railway plans.



Here's the official plan for 2020.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 08:24 PM   #308
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Hi yishbarr. As I see, there is a kind of connection with Irbid through Sheik Hussein border. Is that a plan -which I find uncertain- or is it an old connection from Ottoman times?

Anyway, apart from the close to zero return of the investment required, there is a small problem in climbing the Jordan valley up to Irbid....
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Old July 15th, 2015, 08:35 PM   #309
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Hi yishbarr. As I see, there is a kind of connection with Irbid through Sheik Hussein border. Is that a plan -which I find uncertain- or is it an old connection from Ottoman times?

Anyway, apart from the close to zero return of the investment required, there is a small problem in climbing the Jordan valley up to Irbid....
Yes, Israel railways have the plan to make a line to the jordanian border, can be a very interesting proyect beacuse after the siryan civil war, Jordan and other countries need a access to mediterranean ports.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/haifa-i...pe-mayor-says/
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Old July 16th, 2015, 08:52 AM   #310
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Hi yishbarr. As I see, there is a kind of connection with Irbid through Sheik Hussein border. Is that a plan -which I find uncertain- or is it an old connection from Ottoman times?

Anyway, apart from the close to zero return of the investment required, there is a small problem in climbing the Jordan valley up to Irbid....
It's a new railway (The old railway was a classic narrow gauge railway, and it was destroyed, and not worth using it with today's technology), but it's probably only for distant future plans, since the situation in the area is "you know what".

Nobody is sure if it's going to be for frieght only or interstate travel as well.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 10:59 AM   #311
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Valley line progress:
(photo credits to Alex from "Parovoz" gallery)



http://intl.parovoz.com/gallery/20150713_188560.jpg
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Old July 16th, 2015, 05:39 PM   #312
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Valley line progress:
IR said that the government didn't give them a budget for a duplicated line, but they'll be able to duplicate it when they do have one. For now though, this makes sense, since the valley area is somewhat isolated, and not many people live there.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 12:45 PM   #313
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Wasn't there reports a few years back that Israel and Jordan had agreed on studying a railway line between Amman and Jerusalem? I remberthat that Palestinian Authorities protested because parts of the line would pass through the West Bank.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 10:12 PM   #314
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Never heard about such an agreement between Israel & Jordan. Kinda wishful thinking...
There were actually some leaks in forums about railway line to Jenin and a couple of other Palestinian cities in West Bank as well as railway link between Gaza strip & West Bank.
Good intentions so far. Unfortunately nothing more then that.
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Old July 19th, 2015, 09:46 PM   #315
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There have been many railway plans that nobody knows if they even exist. What does exist is a whole network in the west bank, some of which aren't going to be done too soon because of the conflict. (Jerusalem - Ramallah, Hebron - Gaza would be problematic. What would make more sense are the Jerusalem - Ma'ale Adumim, and Rosh Haayin - Ariel railways, since those are Israeli cities on public C territories). So, I didn't draw all of them on the map, but it seems like our transportation minister is enthusiastic about it.

What I doubt that exists are mad proposals. A Kuwait - Tel Aviv railway is going to have to wait for quite a bit longer. (Yes, someone did propose that I think).
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Old July 20th, 2015, 11:53 AM   #316
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Meanwhile more old "Primas" (73x-series / 1998 delivery) have repainted with new IR colors:





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Old July 20th, 2015, 02:31 PM   #317
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Is there any update on the railway Station that is going to be build (supposed to be) in Mazkeret Batya?
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Old July 20th, 2015, 04:01 PM   #318
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As far as I know, railway station was actually planned in Mazkeret Batya area but not approved yet.
Although there is a half-built train platform in Kfar Menahem neighborhood that was initially planned as Kiryat Malakhi railway connection. Its construction was also suspended more then a year ago.
Official reason was as usual: no money to complete the project after budget cutoff.
Despite protests and complains of local residents, works remain frozen for now.

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Old July 20th, 2015, 04:18 PM   #319
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Such a pity. Hate taking busses via Rehovot.. Slow and stuck in traffic
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Old July 20th, 2015, 04:28 PM   #320
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Although there is a half-built train platform in Kfar Menahem neighborhood that was initially planned as Kiryat Malakhi railway connection. Its construction was suspended more then a year ago.
Official reason was as usual: no money to complete the project after budget cutoff.
Despite protests and complains of local residents, works remain frozen for now.
I pass by this unbuilt station, and never really understood why it was being built, as it is in the middle of nowhere (you can see all the fields in the image - that is what the area is like for miles around). Would residents of distant villages want to use it? 3.5 km to moshav bnei re'em, 7.5km to Yad Binyamin, and 8.5km to Kiryat Malachi. Is that convenient?
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