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Old August 26th, 2015, 07:39 PM   #381
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Here's a plan for a railway to Yerucham. It branches of after Dimona station, and it looks like they're building a new Dimona station.
http://www.iroads.co.il/content/%D7%...95%D7%A0%D7%94
Here's the railway to Arad, including stops at Nevatim base, and a station at Kuseife for Bedouin tribes.
http://www.iroads.co.il/content/%D7%...A2%D7%A8%D7%93
Here's the early concept for the Afula - Tveria line, which will also be extended eventually to the Kiryat Shmona line that comes from Carmiel.
http://www.iroads.co.il/content/%D7%...%D7%99%D7%94-0
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Old August 27th, 2015, 08:52 AM   #382
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A line from Netanya Station to Kfar Yona would possibly be along Rt. 57. But I really dont see where they wanna build a Station in Ganot Hadar AND Nordiya??
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Old August 27th, 2015, 10:57 AM   #383
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A line from Netanya Station to Kfar Yona would possibly be along Rt. 57. But I really dont see where they wanna build a Station in Ganot Hadar AND Nordiya??
Alright, I just asked an IR representative, and they said that it's not true. I guess the open source Wikipedia had someone write it in. But if it was true, building a station in Gannot and Nordia would be nice, because you don't get a lot of small stations.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 01:19 PM   #384
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. The exception is the Eurostar terminals - and THAT has more to do with the British immigration authorities' claim to stop asylum seekers on French soil rather than their own.
And it's been a serious handicap for Eurostar. Passenger numbers are still way below expectations.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 02:44 PM   #385
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And it's been a serious handicap for Eurostar. Passenger numbers are still way below expectations.
No, I think it has to do with different EU memberships that allow open border passing, that the UK and France and Belgium aren't part of, or something like that, but in general, if we're continuing about this, then again, it's easy for you to criticize, because, most European railways aren't threatened by terrorists daily, unlike Israel.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 08:26 PM   #386
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I'm not the one for obsessive security, but if there is one place there that is warranted Israel would be it. No one is really trying to blow up anything in Switzerland, railways or otherwise.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 02:58 PM   #387
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... and it was stuck with the poor infrastructure built by the Ottomans...
From an historical point of view, this is not true. The railways that the
state of Israel inherited in 1948 were essentially built by the english during
the great war. The only notable exception is the valley line, but this one felt
into disuse shortly after Israel's independence. All other lines were built from
scratch by the british, or, for a few of them, widened from metric to standard
gauge (main case Tulkarem-Lydda-Jerusalem).

And by the way, it's not entirely true to say that Israel did not care about
its railways before recently. There was a lot of attention to railways in the
beginning - until the coastal railway line was built in the early 60ies. After
that indeed, the attention shifted to roads only. But, had this early
attention not existed, and the coastal line not been built at that time,
probably Israel would be totally without railways today.
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Old August 30th, 2015, 10:28 PM   #388
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OK, did some research, and apparently, a railway to Kfar Yona makes sense, since there is the Eastern railway branch from Tul Karem to Netanya, and in between the places, there's Kfar Yona, so once they upgrade the eastern railway, they'll probably build a station there.
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/332/320.html
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Old August 31st, 2015, 08:05 PM   #389
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Old photos from earlier this year, when everything was still green from the winter.

Ofakim Station.







Railway to Jerusalem in Nof Ayalon area.



The tunnel goes to Modiin.


On the left, there's the construction of the Rishon Letzion connection.
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Old September 3rd, 2015, 11:15 PM   #390
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They've been fixing stuff up on the Dimona railway, like bridges. Apparently, it has nothing to do with making the line capable of HSTs, or building the new station, but still, at least it's getting attention for the least used train in the country which will become one of the most significant ones in the near future.

On the other hand, A-BS railway will be inaugurated on Wednesday.
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Old September 5th, 2015, 01:13 AM   #391
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Hi Yishbarr. A small question: are there any plans to extend the line from Beersheva to Eilat? Last Spring, being in Aqaba, I decided to travel back to Amman through Israeli side of the river and was surprised by the high number of trucks -among the general traffic- in the road. I don't know if there is any feasability study, but IMHO, on the goods transportation side, it seems aparently that there is room enough for the extension.
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Old September 5th, 2015, 01:00 PM   #392
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Hi Yishbarr. A small question: are there any plans to extend the line from Beersheva to Eilat? Last Spring, being in Aqaba, I decided to travel back to Amman through Israeli side of the river and was surprised by the high number of trucks -among the general traffic- in the road. I don't know if there is any feasability study, but IMHO, on the goods transportation side, it seems aparently that there is room enough for the extension.
There is a plan for a high-speed railway, and it's even mostly approved:

However, the project's predicted cost is currently estimated at around 7 billion USD, and IMHO the predicted passenger traffic does not justify the cost. Sadly, the passenger-oriented HSR overshadowed the much more humble and feasible cargo line and I highly doubt that either of them will be constructed in the foreseeable future.
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Old September 5th, 2015, 08:54 PM   #393
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There is a plan for a high-speed railway, and it's even mostly approved:

However, the project's predicted cost is currently estimated at around 7 billion USD, and IMHO the predicted passenger traffic does not justify the cost. Sadly, the passenger-oriented HSR overshadowed the much more humble and feasible cargo line and I highly doubt that either of them will be constructed in the foreseeable future.
Not true, that was an opinion of some oppositions. People go to Eilat for tourism all the time, and they need to build this line urgently, because the new international airport in Timna is going to open, since this would be their only proper link to the center. Besides, the railway to Eilat has been in mind since the 1950s, and I think it's time they finish with it, and so does the government that confirmed it.

And yes, since Eilat port is in Eilat, it would be an additional connection to the Mediterranean besides the Suez Canal. (Where Egypt has accused Israel of "competing", but whatever).

When it does get built, it would probably become our first proper High Speed Rail, where trains travel above 210 km/h. (300 km/h in our case).

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Old September 8th, 2015, 10:26 PM   #394
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Sooo, here we are at the Valley line during the annual "dust storm before cold weather". Posted by Netivei Yisrael.



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Old September 10th, 2015, 12:15 AM   #395
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According time-table in the Israel railways site, first train from Beer-Sheva to Tel-Aviv via Ashkelon will go after shabbat, in the evening 19 September
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Old September 15th, 2015, 12:32 AM   #396
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Official announcement from Israel Railways:

http://www.rail.co.il/EN/Pages/theNewDarom.aspx
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Old September 15th, 2015, 09:21 PM   #397
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but new prices are not published,
from Netivot to Beer Sheva costs 40 shekels, from Tel Aviv to Beer Sheva 31 shekels
I choose 20 September, for example, in the site...

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Old September 16th, 2015, 02:17 PM   #398
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but new prices are not published,
from Netivot to Beer Sheva costs 40 shekels, from Tel Aviv to Beer Sheva 31 shekels
I choose 20 September, for example, in the site...
Don't people get how computers work??? I mean, you're one out of a dozen who keep on saying this. They're not publishing new prices before the line is active, and they can't make the dates work until they upload a new system.

Anyways, looks like they're working on the Modiin Arc now.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 06:45 PM   #399
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I'm pretty sure like most new lines it will be free for the first couple weeks.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 07:54 PM   #400
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I'm pretty sure like most new lines it will be free for the first couple weeks.
No. That was just for Sderot when they were shooting rockets from Gaza as a solidarity - empathy thing. Also, fun fact, NRL has trees planted across the rails to block the view from Gaza, so they can't launch rockets at trains.
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