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Old September 15th, 2008, 10:22 AM   #41
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On you second point, I thought some of the tunneling was already done and available as a carcass construction? A friend told me an Italian tunneling team (living in prefabricated barracks, staying away from Israeli society and bringing their own food...) had done so a couple of years ago, but so far the railways have used the tunnel for nothing. Or, is that in your view a canard?
To the best of my knowledge, there is no truth in this story at all.

There are plenty of details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-sp...y_to_Jerusalem.

I don't know how up-to-the-minute it is, but it gives the general idea.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 11:38 AM   #42
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I hope you were referring to the pics from the Austrian forum. If so, I have uploaded them to my server and you should be able to see them now.

Meanwhile, here's a pic of a double decker in the middle of Tel Aviv's Ayalon Freeway (from Wikipedia):

Do car drivers ever want to race with trains?
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Old September 29th, 2008, 02:44 PM   #43
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hi guys.. wonderful thread but I am a little bit confused. Do you have metro or suburban train? Wich one is intercity wich one is regional train? Could you please classifice the trains?
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Old September 30th, 2008, 03:30 PM   #44
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hi guys.. wonderful thread but I am a little bit confused. Do you have metro or suburban train? Wich one is intercity wich one is regional train? Could you please classifice the trains?
Israel is a very small country, and I get the impression that the same trains serve all types of journey. If I'm wrong, no doubt someone will correct me.
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Old September 30th, 2008, 03:31 PM   #45
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Old October 1st, 2008, 10:28 AM   #46
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Not quite. The system is divided into suburban and inter-city lines. The lines are "virtual", in that they often use the same tracks.

Intercity lines include the Nahariya-Modiin and Nahariya-Beer-Sheva lines, while the suburban lines include the Ashkelon-Binyamina and Rehovot-Binyamina lines and, I believe, the line to Kfar-Sava.

Intercity trains do not stop between Tel Aviv and Binyamina, so I have to change trains every day at Tel Aviv to get from Modiin to Herzliya.

As far as rolling-stock is concerned, all of the suburban trains are double-deckers, AFAIK, while the inter-city lines have both the double deckers and all the other types of train too.

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Old October 1st, 2008, 10:33 AM   #47
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maybe ure right
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 01:15 AM   #48
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Are they planning to electrify suburban lines?
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:41 AM   #49
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Are they planning to electrify suburban lines?
Eventually . . .

Meanwhile, I've found some more pictures of the new Siemens trains which are soon to enter service in Israel. They are from the ************** site and were taken in Switzerland:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/sargans-209785.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/sonstige-205996.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/sargans-204810.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/sonstige-204104.jpg[/IMG]

There are others on the site, as well as more pictures of Israeli trains.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:49 PM   #50
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Those are diesel trains because they do not have pantographs.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 09:15 PM   #51
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Are you sure?
Look at yellow locomotive in 4th picture
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Look at yellow locomotive in 4th picture
That's a Swiss locomotive. Here they will be pulled (and pushed) by Israel Railway's standard diesel locomotive for passenger trains, the Alstom JT42BW:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/sonstige-159860.jpg[/IMG]
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Old October 4th, 2008, 11:14 PM   #53
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Israeli Network

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Wonderful pictures. I love the new colors chosen- suiting Israel perfectly. I use the system sometimes from Binyamina to Tel Aviv Central. I belive the most important thing is to creat a fast connection to Jerusalem (now being built). I heared a connection to the dead sea via Arad is planned as well as a line to Eilat with a connection to Petra in Jordan. There's also a line to Nazareth that's being built and I think it might further continue to Tiberias and Kiryat Shmona.
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Are there any electric locomotives in Israel yet?
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how are teh stations?
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Old October 28th, 2008, 10:44 AM   #57
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Some pix from this summer Jerusalem-Tel Aviv route





























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Old October 28th, 2008, 10:58 AM   #58
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amazing pictures

wich train was the one you took? The one wich covers with advertisment? How fast was it?
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amazing pictures

wich train was the one you took? The one wich covers with advertisment? How fast was it?
Great pictures!

I am not the photographer, but, to answer your question: The interior photo looks like it was taken in an IC3 train, which is the single-deck train with the advertisements on. For some reason, these are the only trains with adverts.

The route to Jerusalem is an upgrade of the old Turkish Jerusalem-Jaffa line, which was opened in 1892. It takes about an hour and a half, which is much longer than driving. It is quite steep and winding for a train, and of all the trains that IR uses, only the IC3 can handle it. It is quite picturesque and a good ride for tourists. In Turkish times the journey apparently took six hours!

The old Jerusalem and Jaffa stations still exist, but are no longer in use. The Jaffa station is now being renovated as an entertainment center, and the Jerusalem station is, as far as I know, still looking for a new function.

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I think it was a part of famous Hijaz railroad (wich goes to Meddina from Anatolia- along today Syria and Israel). I am not sure, but it can be!
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