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Old September 4th, 2010, 04:37 PM   #101
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lectures on rail: science professors give lessons !!

this is a initiative that allow commuters to hear a 25 minutes lectures.
for example:
Albert einstein and his contirbution
How cherry tomatoes were developed
experiments while-u-ride.

see this utube , I apologise that it is in Hebrew but you can get the general idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnpSL...layer_embedded

Is such initiative exist also in other countries?
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Old September 5th, 2010, 02:33 AM   #102
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Israel Railways today ran a double-length, double decker train with two locomotives for the first time:



The train, which can seat 1200 people, is meant to alleviate overcrowding on the busiest lines at the busiest time of the week, which is Sunday morning, mainly due to soldiers returning to their bases after weekend leave. At present the train will run on the Beer Sheva-Nahariya line.

Information and picture from the Calcalist newspaper website.
That's unusual, placing a locomotive in the middle of a passenger train like that. Was it split into two sections after a certain station?

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Is there a reason that the trains run on the left set of tracks while roads in Israel are driven on the right side. I assume that it may be a relic from when the British were in charge.
Canadian pacific operates the same way and their train drivers sit on the right side of the locomotive.
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Old September 5th, 2010, 10:10 AM   #103
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Sometimes in Europe compositions of indipendent vehicles (that is, loco+coaches, not EMU/DMU) are worked as a single thing. Just like the RailJet trains in Austria: there are standard composition of one locomotive and seven coaches, that travel together (with one loco in the middle) on the most busy part and then split to two destinations.

In a lot of European countries trains drive on the left other than the UK: Portugal, France, Switzerland, Italy, Sweden, ... see there: http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/...map_europe.php
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Old September 5th, 2010, 11:20 PM   #104
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That's unusual, placing a locomotive in the middle of a passenger train like that. Was it split into two sections after a certain station?
Not yet so frequent, but not unusual anymore. Railjets in Austria are
sometimes operated like that (double unit starting from Munich and
going to Vienna, where they get uncoupled, one unit terminating there
and the other one proceeding to Budapest).

In Belgium we do it too, also with double deckers. There are some pictures
and examples in the thread dedicated to double deckers. We also operate
trains with the loc in between and a driver's cab at each end.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 12:10 AM   #105
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Railjets operate like that daily. In general push-pull trains are operated these days as if they were fixed unites. There are some downsides to that, such as less flexibility in using the locos. The advantage, however, is that they are easier to be maintained. The whole composition undergoes the same service cycle and there is no need to keep track of every individual car.
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Old September 9th, 2010, 07:52 PM   #106
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The whole composition undergoes the same service cycle and there is no need to keep track of every individual car.
This is not necessarily an advantage... The locomotive will need to be
inspected and maintained far more often than the cars, and with that
methord, the whole trainset would be immobilized while only the loco
is being worked on. Good asset management - and this is how it is really
done - would require a few spare locos to be thrown in when a "regular"
loco is unavailable. Failures will happen more often on the loco than on the
cars too.

And yes, you still need to keep track of every individual piece of rolling
stock. Because if one car in such a rake must be taken out of service
(broken wheel, flat tyre, smashed window, whatever), one will certainly not
keep the whole rake out of revenue service while the broken car is repaired.
The broken car will be extracted out of the rake, and the rake returned to
revenue service asap with one car less or with a reserve car thrown in. Such
expensive assets are not kept idle for no good reason, and railway companies
do not have that much reserve capacity.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 01:20 AM   #107
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I have to questions:

1. How competitive/fast is the train service to Eliat?

2. Are there plans for electrification? Being such a modern and high-tech nation, it amazes me such widespread use of diesel on Israeli railways.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 12:39 PM   #108
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I have to questions:

1. How competitive/fast is the train service to Eliat?

2. Are there plans for electrification? Being such a modern and high-tech nation, it amazes me such widespread use of diesel on Israeli railways.
1) There's no rail service to Eilat.

2) There is a plan to electrify most of the network. Not sure whether it has final budget approval or not, but apparently about 80 percent of the network will be electrified in the next few years.
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Old September 11th, 2010, 02:26 AM   #109
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I have to questions:

1. How competitive/fast is the train service to Eliat?

2. Are there plans for electrification? Being such a modern and high-tech nation, it amazes me such widespread use of diesel on Israeli railways.
1. As far as I know, there is indeed a rail line going to Eilat, but passenger
rail service is not organized on it, not further south than Be'er Sheva.

2. Too few budget left after all the defense-oriented spending, maybe ?
To be more serious, the israeli network is going through an almost-
resurrection : 10 years ago, they were still into 2nd hand buying age,
and now they'll soon become the most advanced rail network
in the region, together with Iran and Turkey. Give them some time, man...
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Old September 11th, 2010, 10:39 AM   #110
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Some maps of rail networks in the world: http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/maps.php (also of Israel)

Apparently there is no railway at all to Eliat.
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Old September 11th, 2010, 11:52 AM   #111
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1. As far as I know, there is indeed a rail line going to Eilat, but passenger
rail service is not organized on it, not further south than Be'er Sheva.

2. Too few budget left after all the defense-oriented spending, maybe ?
To be more serious, the israeli network is going through an almost-
resurrection : 10 years ago, they were still into 2nd hand buying age,
and now they'll soon become the most advanced rail network
in the region, together with Iran and Turkey. Give them some time, man...
1. There is a freight line going south of Beer Sheva, but it does not go all the way to Eilat.

2. The lack of electrification is basically a matter of budgetary priorities. There are several major new lines being built and a couple of line upgrades all going on at once. The electrification is presumably considered less urgent by the finance ministry mandarins who approve the budget.

The following projects are currently under construction in various stages of completetion (From Israel Railways website):

- Doubling of Lod-Beer Sheva line: Heavy construction leading to frequent line closures.
- Doubling of the Kiryat Motzkin - Naharia line: Also lots of line closures.

- Tel Aviv to Rishon Letzion West via Ayalon: Supposed to open 2011. Four new stations in Holon, Bat Yam and Rishon Letzion. 18km.
- Ashkelon-Beer Sheva line via Netivot, Sderot and Ofakim: 60km. Opening date 2014.
- Rishon Letzion West to Bnei Darom: A link between Rishon Letzion West and the Ashdod Ashkelon line, including a new station at Yavne. 19km. Due date 2012.

Other projects in various stages of planning or construction include the Ben-Gurion Airport Jerusalem line, the Haifa-Carmiel line, and the so-called "Valley Railway" from Bet Shean to Haifa, which is 60km and will include 8 new stations.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 07:25 AM   #112
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Trains in Hadera

I was in Israel for the summer and took some pictures of the IR, near Hadera Train Station,

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2535914_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5842355_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4525454_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7078198_n.jpg
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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:35 AM   #113
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Are the IC3 originally built for Israel or were they purchased from Danemark?
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Old September 26th, 2010, 11:46 PM   #114
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Are the IC3 originally built for Israel or were they purchased from Danemark?
From Wikipedia:

:"Another large operator of the IC3 trains is Israel Railways, who operate about 50 IC3 sets. Some of those sets were assembled in Israel by RAMTA, a division of IAI, and some are modified IC3 trainsets which were originally delivered to Sweden."

The IC3s are now the oldest trains that IR runs, and some of them are beginning to show their age. Some of them have been refurbished with new seats etc. For some reason it is always too dark inside them. Another weird thing is that the doors are too far apart.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 11:11 AM   #115
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Hi all,

Bombardier will supply Israel Railways with 78 new double-deck carriages, to be delivered between November 2011 and April 2012.

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/glob...92740&fid=1725

This is in addition to four additional Siemens trains (31 coaches) which they've already ordered.
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Old December 29th, 2010, 05:16 PM   #116
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Hi all,

An IC3 train spontaneously caught fire south of Haifa yesterday. No one was seriously hurt, but the train was a write-off, and there were disruptions in services.

The IC3s are the oldest trains in IR's fleet now, and are proving to be a bit of a liability. I wonder if they might be put to pasture, when IR gets its next rolling stock orders in the next couple of years.
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Old December 30th, 2010, 05:19 AM   #117
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I'd like to know more about freight rail in Israel.
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 07:19 PM   #118
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The new upgraded TLV-Beersheba line story

A new you tube clip that show the new upgraded line to be opened at year end. (q1 2012).
you can notice that at some place concrete elements have been placed before the track bed. that was because graves were found there, and according to jewish law a tunnel had to be built to allow the ghosts go in and out....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsJ4O...layer_embedded
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 11:53 AM   #119
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Is there a reason that the trains run on the left set of tracks while roads in Israel are driven on the right side. I assume that it may be a relic from when the British were in charge.
In France and Italy trains also drive on the left while road traffic drives on the right.
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 04:27 PM   #120
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In fact does anybody know why it is (in some other countries too) – the road traffic to use right side, the rail traffic – opposite? I have been wondering what the reason is. Sorry for off-topic!!!
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