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Old May 30th, 2013, 12:55 AM   #141
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When is the new Gan Yavne - Ashdod link open and how will trains run to Ashkelon after that? Both via Rehovot and via Rishon or only on one route?
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Old May 30th, 2013, 07:57 AM   #142
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Does Israelian railways have plans to:

- electrify tracks
- build a good link with Eliat
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When is the new Gan Yavne - Ashdod link open and how will trains run to Ashkelon after that? Both via Rehovot and via Rishon or only on one route?
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although recent budget cut-offs occurred and entailed delays in some railway projects:
- Yes. There are two lines being already built as initially electric powered: TA-Jerusalem fast line and Haifa-Carmiel line.
Electrification project for the rest of the lines supposed to begin later in 2016-17.
- Yes. Eilat railway project passed RFI stage and approved. Construction is expected to start somewhere in 2016-17.

Robi_damian,
as far as I know IR intends to complete the link somewhere in Q3 this year or even sooner...
Is supposed to become the main line between TA and Ashdod/Ashkelon.
Still unclear whether existing line via Lod and Rehovot will continue to operate to Ashkelon afterward.

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Old May 30th, 2013, 08:42 AM   #143
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Cargo railway activity in Negev desert:





























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Old June 2nd, 2013, 12:32 PM   #144
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Existing "Old" railway line Tel-Aviv - Jerusalem:













Jerusalem Malkha station in winter:









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Tel-Aviv - Jerusalem fast railway line U/C (to be completed in 2017).

















Jerusalem Umma underground station (approx. 70m depth):



Construction in progress:









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Old June 2nd, 2013, 04:19 PM   #145
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That looks impressive.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 05:53 PM   #146
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IR passenger yards/depots.

Haifa-East:





Lod:







Beer-Sheva hub (U/C) - future connection station to Eilat:







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Anything known about the rolling stock for the future high speed line?

For years, i'm wondering why the network is not being electrificied? In my opinion, the relative small network would be ideal for complete electrification
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 07:18 PM   #148
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Anything known about the rolling stock for the future high speed line?

For years, i'm wondering why the network is not being electrificied? In my opinion, the relative small network would be ideal for complete electrification
It's seems to have some connection that Israel doesn't have major sources of uranium or coal, no significant hydroplants and until recent discoveries didn't have major natural gas supplies...
So unlike countries like Ukraine or Switherland, which have no (or nearly no) oil, but lot of local elecro-generation, Israel had no reason to pursue electrification - that would just replace oil imports with coal imports, which wouldn't be a great gain until late 00th, when liquid fuel prices started growing more violently
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 11:42 AM   #149
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During last decade growing passenger traffic already reached structural limits of existing railway network. And since significant natural gas resources were found in Mediterranean shelf - all this pushed government to accelerate electrification program.
Unfortunately, current financial problems forced transportation ministry to reconsider priorities and pushed electrification of existing railway lines to the last stage of transportation development while construction of new railway lines was placed on top. However, two projects: Jerusalem high speed line and Carmiel line (both U/C) will be electric powered from the first day of operation.

Existing rolling stock is easily convertible for operation with electric locomotives since the most trains are push-pull type with replaceable generator units.
Regarding future high-speed lines I have no idea which system will be chosen... TA-Jerusalem line is 60 km while future TA-Eilat line is about 360 km (Ta-BS 100 km & BS-Eilat 260 km). Lines have different topology and estimated passenger capacity. All this keeping in mind that Eilat line will be used as important cargo link between Red sea and Mediterranean sea with heavy freight traffic...

Siemens is one of possible candidates for passenger segment (IR colors modelling):

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TA Ayalon corridor is the "bottleneck" of railway infrastructure in the center of the country...







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Old June 3rd, 2013, 04:57 PM   #151
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IR passenger yards/depots.


Beer-Sheva hub (U/C) - future connection station to Eilat:
Where is this being built? Close to the North/University station or closer to the main BeerSheba station in the city center?
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BS-University station.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 05:51 PM   #153
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BS-University station.
Isn't that further from the town center? One of the peculiar things about Israeli railways is that many lines have stations way outside urban cores. Like Petah Tikva or Netanya. This is unlike Europe where stations are built as close to the city centers wherever possible.

I did notice that the new Southern like to Yavne has more stations in core areas, and this is good I think.
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Agree with you. Although this situation changes since new lines built right through metropolis suburbans, like Kfar Saba/Hod-Hasharon, Rishon HaRishonim and Yavne-Maarav you have mentioned.

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Old June 5th, 2013, 01:14 AM   #155
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How is TA ligthrail going? Has it started to be built already?
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How is TA ligthrail going? Has it started to be built already?
Works in progress. TBM-machines are about to dig their first meters..
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IC3 fast operation at coastal line:




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The first EURO-3200 series locomotive (1303) before shipping to Israel:



http://www.railcolor.net/index.php?n...0&action=dview
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Old June 14th, 2013, 11:47 PM   #159
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The first EURO-3200 series locomotive (1303) before shipping to Israel:



http://www.railcolor.net/index.php?n...0&action=dview
How does the truck supoort it? Locomotives can weigh dozens of tons in some cases...
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10 axis ;-)
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