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Old June 15th, 2013, 04:05 PM   #161
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How does the truck supoort it? Locomotives can weigh dozens of tons in some cases...
XAN_ is right.
BTW, EURO3200 loco weights 88 tons "only"
There are trailers that capable to carry even heavier locomotives... This is 123t EURO4000 locomotive:



Vossloh export type locomotives and trains cannot be transported by railrolling since spanish gauge is different (for example: wider then standard gauge used in Israel). Therefore company uses trucks for locos delivery from Valencia factory.

However, sometimes in the countries that use even the same gauge, locos are not allowed to run "themselves"......
old Israeli G12 in US on their way to Mount Vernon depot for utilization:

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Old June 15th, 2013, 04:29 PM   #162
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Hi, Israeli forumers first of all say that I admire a lot your country.
I read in english Wikipedia that Israel did a lot of refurshibements in the rail infraestructure in the last 20 years. Three questions: (you can answer what you want of course )

- Is the rail to Beersheva finished (refurbishement)? How much time costs now going to Beersheva to Tel Aviv?

- Is the High Speed Rail between Jerusalem and Tel Aviv under construction or the works are halted? I read (in wiki of course ) that rail is going to be finished in 2017.

- Works on the rail to Eilat are going to start soon, or this rail is only in planning stage?

Thank you, and I hope soon to visit Israel.
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Old June 15th, 2013, 04:38 PM   #163
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Hi, Israeli forumers first of all say that I admire a lot your country.
I read in english Wikipedia that Israel did a lot of refurshibements in the rail infraestructure in the last 20 years. Three questions: (you can answer what you want of course )

- Is the rail to Beersheva finished (refurbishement)? How much time costs now going to Beersheva to Tel Aviv?

- Is the High Speed Rail between Jerusalem and Tel Aviv under construction or the works are halted? I read (in wiki of course ) that rail is going to be finished in 2017.

- Works on the rail to Eilat are going to start soon, or this rail is only in planning stage?

Thank you, and I hope soon to visit Israel.
Hi javimix19! Beer Sheva line reconstruction is completed about a year ago. You can get BS from TA for 55 min (price: 30 NIS or about $8.25).

Regarding high-speed railway between TA and JRS - check this post (previous page ):

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=144

Eilat railway project passed RFI stage and approved. Construction is expected to start somewhere in 2016-17.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #164
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Another EURO3200 locomotive with IR registration 1301 (still in house Vossloh livery) on its way to Germany for various testing before shipping to Israel:

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Old June 17th, 2013, 10:15 PM   #165
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Do you have any pictures with the works on the Acre-Karmiel, Ashkelon-Beersheba or Gan Yavne - Ashdod sections?
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Old June 18th, 2013, 07:41 AM   #166
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Do you have any pictures with the works on the Acre-Karmiel, Ashkelon-Beersheba or Gan Yavne - Ashdod sections?
Carmiel line (U/C):













Near Carmiel:



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Yavne-Maarav - Ashdod link (U/C):

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Old June 18th, 2013, 08:33 AM   #167
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Beautiful. The level of construction is just awesome. Israel will have an excellent network in a few years' time.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 08:59 AM   #168
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There is another important line U/C: Haifa - Beit-Shean (a part of historical Hidjaz line or "Rakevet HaEmeq").
Besides passenger link between Haifa and Ezrieli valley towns it's potentially planned to connect jordanian city of Irbid via Hussein crossing with israeli railway network.
Since civil war and turmoil occurred in Syria, the only way to connect Jordan with Mediterranean sea is the link to Haifa.

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Old June 18th, 2013, 11:37 AM   #169
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Hi elab I see in your last post that Israel is planning a connection with Jordanian railways, that is great.
Is planned more connections with Egypt and Lebanon? (I exclude Siria because it is not the moment)
Imagine a connection with Tel Aviv-Jerusalem with Ammann and Cairo. The posibilities of tourism, commerce, etc. (Yes I know that there are political facts but I only ask about technical posibilities)

I have also other question ( I know that I'm pretty boring )

- How much time it costs now by railway go from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv? And by road? ( I see in google maps that there is a motorway)
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Old June 18th, 2013, 12:37 PM   #170
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Hi elab I see in your last post that Israel is planning a connection with Jordanian railways, that is great.
Is planned more connections with Egypt and Lebanon? (I exclude Siria because it is not the moment)
Imagine a connection with Tel Aviv-Jerusalem with Ammann and Cairo. The posibilities of tourism, commerce, etc. (Yes I know that there are political facts but I only ask about technical posibilities)

I have also other question ( I know that I'm pretty boring )

- How much time it costs now by railway go from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv? And by road? ( I see in google maps that there is a motorway)
javimix19, as far as I know, Jordanian railways use narrow gauge. If this project will come true - it will be special line and not the straight connection between networks.. at least until Jordan will change its gauge to 1,435 mm standard.

Regarding links with Egypt and Lebanon...... It would be great! 70 years ago there were railways via Rosh-HaNikra to Sidon in Lebanon and via Gaza, El-Arish, Qantara to Alexandria in Egypt... even via Zemakh to Damascus..... We still see remains of tracks. Sad!
Unfortunately today all mentioned countries politically prefer to stay apart from each other as well as economically they don't share any interest that might need railway connection (tourism - maybe the only one). Moreover, future Eilat-Mediterranean railway link would become considerable threat for egyptian channel of Suez.

Today railway trip from Jerusalem to TA will take much more then hour... By road it will be approx. 45 min depends on traffic situation. BTW note: one of two TA-JRS highways will suffer traffic limits because of reconstruction that begins this year....
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Old June 18th, 2013, 03:05 PM   #171
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Two EURO3200 locomotives (reg.No.1303 & 1304) just arrived Kishon Port in Haifa:

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I like a lot Modi'in Central Station , is completely underground. I think that is the only underground station in Israel isn't?



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Old June 18th, 2013, 04:35 PM   #173
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Since HaUmma station in Jerusalem is U/C - Modiin Central is the only underground station so far.

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Another shot of EURO3200 1303 before landing


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Old June 19th, 2013, 09:39 AM   #174
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Euro3200 arrival in Haifa:





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Photos of various rolling stock landing Holy land:







.... and old veterans leave to US for utilization and final rest:



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Old June 19th, 2013, 12:47 PM   #175
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Where this new rolling stock was constructed? In Europe or in North America? (or in another continent perhaps)

And another general question: excluding high speed rail, what are the projects of railways that are under construction in Israel now? I don't want to bother you so if you have a link I will be content with that.
Thank you.
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Old June 19th, 2013, 02:16 PM   #176
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Except old US-made G12 and G26 diesel locomotives, all israeli rolling stock made in Europe. Mostly in Germany/Austria (Siemens, Bombardier-european division), Spain (Vossloh/former Alstom factory) and in Denmark (IC3). Also some shunting locos made in Sweden.
All diesel-electric locomotives in Israel equipped with various american GM-EMD (now Caterpillar) engines.

Regarding passenger railway projects (existing - black, U/C - red, approved - purple):



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Old June 19th, 2013, 02:35 PM   #177
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Lemme guess: South of Haifa Hof HaKarmel?
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Old June 19th, 2013, 09:21 PM   #179
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Cool map. Answers some questions I came here to ask.

When all those lines are done, there are few countries in the world that have such a high density of railways.
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When the approved lines shown above have been completed, there will be redundant routes all the way from Haifa to Be'er Sheva -- important for a country on the defensive.
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