daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Development News Forums > General Urban Developments > DN Archives



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old June 28th, 2008, 06:46 AM   #61
Aubergine
Registered User
 
Aubergine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 32
Likes (Received): 0

The envy displayed here is just sad. Dubai is fabulous - if this was proposed for, say, Chicago, you'd be worshipping it.

It's an inspired design.
Aubergine no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old June 28th, 2008, 08:21 AM   #62
Marco Polo
Registered User
 
Marco Polo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: N/A
Posts: 5,530

This might be a very interesting project!!!
Marco Polo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 28th, 2008, 08:37 AM   #63
Big Texan
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 516
Likes (Received): 12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aubergine View Post
if this was proposed for, say, Chicago, you'd be worshipping it.
We are not thinking the same thing then.
Big Texan no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 28th, 2008, 08:46 AM   #64
luv2bebrown
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Unknown
Posts: 1,882
Likes (Received): 109

there seems to be a fundamental racist belief that simply because the opera house is being built in an Arab city, that there exists no market for opera and theatre. there are plenty of plays and operas going on the city, but because the city has not done enough to culture the interest in performing arts, the scene is not nearly as big as it should be. the government is finally filling a void by building this opera house - NOT as some would suggest, building it without reason.
luv2bebrown no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 29th, 2008, 08:26 AM   #65
Erektion
Registered User
 
Erektion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Location, Location
Posts: 1,507
Likes (Received): 55

Well that is genuinely fantastic! If it's true that that there is an emerging performing arts culture in Dubai I think you'd find everyone is happy...and happy for the citizens of that city in particular. The presence of art is a truly beautiful thing to be consumed by. It opens the minds of those previously less willing.
Just for the record it wouldn't be racist if people had concerns over the plan. It's important that you don't see yourselves as victims here. You only compound a problem that doesn't actually exist.
Yes people may be envious of Dubai (which is normal and healthy) but I'm sure there are only a small narrow minded few who are jealous.
Erektion no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 29th, 2008, 09:20 AM   #66
luv2bebrown
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Unknown
Posts: 1,882
Likes (Received): 109

im just saying that for the less initiated, there isnt an understanding that Dubai is an international city with an international population. While opera and theatre may not be a traditional pastime for Arabs, it is for a whole segment of the international community. Also, like international film and cuisine, who is to say that performing arts won't even become a pastime among Arabs?

people who object to the creation of this opera house are not envious of Dubai. They simply think that because its an Arab city that there is no demand for performing arts - thats what bugs me.
luv2bebrown no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 29th, 2008, 09:21 AM   #67
luv2bebrown
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Unknown
Posts: 1,882
Likes (Received): 109

Quote:
Originally Posted by revirnik View Post
In total agreement with you!! Are the people in Dubai really interested in opera? Are the tourists visiting Dubai interested in opera? I don't think so.Not only in Dubai, but in general: opera and opera houses are too often used to just make a culturul statement.

The empty vessel makes the loudest sound...
this is the kind of sentiment that bugs me.
luv2bebrown no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 29th, 2008, 09:28 AM   #68
delores
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,905
Likes (Received): 467

you have to admit though, this is a trophy building rather than a building you need.
delores no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 29th, 2008, 10:29 AM   #69
luv2bebrown
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Unknown
Posts: 1,882
Likes (Received): 109

Quote:
Originally Posted by delores View Post
you have to admit though, this is a trophy building rather than a building you need.
well technically yes you are correct.
we could just build a big square room made of mud bricks and it would serve the same purpose.

same goes for drinking coke and wine. we don't really need coke and wine. we can survive on just water.

but we WANT something a little nicer than what is basically necessary
luv2bebrown no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 7th, 2008, 07:02 AM   #70
Dale
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 9,177
Likes (Received): 5505

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aubergine View Post
The envy displayed here is just sad. Dubai is fabulous - if this was proposed for, say, Chicago, you'd be worshipping it.

It's an inspired design.
The envy is delicious. Let the naysayers choke on many 200-story, Dubai-ish towers.
Dale no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 8th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #71
etienne
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: valparaiso
Posts: 179
Likes (Received): 25

i think that its going to be a trend for every rich city trying to build a cultural/artistic image to hav this kind of impressive project... say singapore built the esplanade, so dubai will hav this expensive structure.

maybe its because they call it an "opera house" that caused some stir. an opera house in the desert? a bit unusual. how about renaming it to someting generic like "cultural centre" or something arabic.
etienne no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 9th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #72
l'eau
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: trollingburg ;_;
Posts: 3,986
Likes (Received): 126

Quote:
Originally Posted by etienne View Post
i think that its going to be a trend for every rich city trying to build a cultural/artistic image to hav this kind of impressive project... say singapore built the esplanade, so dubai will hav this expensive structure.

maybe its because they call it an "opera house" that caused some stir. an opera house in the desert? a bit unusual. how about renaming it to someting generic like "cultural centre" or something arabic.
so do i
Arabs don't like opera.
why dubaians construct museum, university, mosque etc.?

Last edited by l'eau; July 9th, 2008 at 04:07 PM.
l'eau no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 9th, 2008, 05:20 PM   #73
phillybud
Registered User
 
phillybud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Posts: 815
Likes (Received): 35

an interest design, but ....

The design proposed for this building is very modern and interesting, although it seems to totally lack color. I'm glad that something besides highrise apartment buildings are being built in Dubai.

Dubai strikes me as akin to a peasant who wins a big lottery fortune: and spends all that money on things of questionable taste. Lets face it: the majority of buildings in Dubai are extremely tacky and gauche. If I were the Absolute Ruler of Dubai I would have invested the money instead on creating not one, but several, colleges and universities of world reknown and first class research hospitals ... and sponsor foreign aid to poor countries around the world. If Dubai wants fame and glory, sponsoring a single medical research facility and hospital that discovers the cure for AIDS would far outshine everything it has built and plans to build, a hundred times over.
__________________
"Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -- Albert Einstein
phillybud no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 9th, 2008, 11:18 PM   #74
flymordecai
Registered User
 
flymordecai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 964
Likes (Received): 32

This is beautiful. My favorite design from her.
flymordecai no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2008, 07:12 AM   #75
A.U.S. arch. Student
Registered User
 
A.U.S. arch. Student's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nassau, Bahamas. Boca Raton, Florida
Posts: 791
Likes (Received): 42

Quote:
Originally Posted by phillybud View Post
The design proposed for this building is very modern and interesting, although it seems to totally lack color. I'm glad that something besides highrise apartment buildings are being built in Dubai.

Dubai strikes me as akin to a peasant who wins a big lottery fortune: and spends all that money on things of questionable taste. Lets face it: the majority of buildings in Dubai are extremely tacky and gauche. If I were the Absolute Ruler of Dubai I would have invested the money instead on creating not one, but several, colleges and universities of world reknown and first class research hospitals ... and sponsor foreign aid to poor countries around the world. If Dubai wants fame and glory, sponsoring a single medical research facility and hospital that discovers the cure for AIDS would far outshine everything it has built and plans to build, a hundred times over.
http://www.aud.edu/ (American University Of Dubai)

http://www.hmsdc.hms.harvard.edu/education.html (Harvard Medical School Dubai)

http://www.dallasblack.com/site.aspx...ives100million (Dubai donates 100 million to Hurricane Katrina victims)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=605596&page=4
(Above link is Mohammed Bin Rashid gardens which will house many universities and research labs, and hospitals this development will also have a "Humanitarian City" with some of the largest non-for-profit organizations such as Uni-Cef working here as a headquarters in the region)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=113965 (Dubai Health Care City)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=176191&page=5 (DUBAI BIOTECHNOLOGY & RESEARCH PARK )

http://www.ihc.ae/ (Dubai International Humanitarian City)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=136404 (Dubai Silicon Oasis, A cluster of Tech Groups and research labs)

I CAN GO ON AND ON WITH LINKS, so you see Dubai is not just building skyscrapers it has many interesting developments that are making an impact upon the wold, Dubai is only the size of the state Rhode Island in the United States you cannot expect it to lead the world in humanitarian issues and be the "saviour" to cure aids or be the most pervelant sponsor for fighting it and other diseases, but nevertheless it is doing something about these issue despite its small size, it is making a mark on the world and has got people talking.
__________________
www.travellersbazaar.com - your daily source for the best in world travel, architecture/design, green living, style, people and so much more.

Last edited by A.U.S. arch. Student; July 10th, 2008 at 09:23 PM.
A.U.S. arch. Student no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2008, 08:53 PM   #76
phillybud
Registered User
 
phillybud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Posts: 815
Likes (Received): 35

Quote:
Originally Posted by A.U.S. arch. Student View Post


I CAN GO ON AND ON WITH LINKS, so you see Dubai is not just building skyscrapers it has many interesting developments that are making an impact upon the wold, Dubai is only the size of the state Rhode Island in the United States you cannot expect it to lead the world in humanitarian issues and be the "saviour" to cure aids or be the most pervelant sponsor for fighting it and other diseases, but nevertheless it is doing something about these issue despite its small size, it is making a mark on the world and has got people talking. research some...thanks
THANK YOU. You have educated me, and I stand corrected.

__________________
"Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -- Albert Einstein
phillybud no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 11th, 2008, 06:00 AM   #77
A.U.S. arch. Student
Registered User
 
A.U.S. arch. Student's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nassau, Bahamas. Boca Raton, Florida
Posts: 791
Likes (Received): 42

Glad to inform you, wasnt tryin to be condesending just was sharing
__________________
www.travellersbazaar.com - your daily source for the best in world travel, architecture/design, green living, style, people and so much more.
A.U.S. arch. Student no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 11th, 2008, 06:43 AM   #78
adverg
Registered User
 
adverg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 713
Likes (Received): 2

I think this lady architect had been supernaturalized by "Aliens", hehehe but good design anyway...
adverg no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 14th, 2008, 11:40 AM   #79
Amrafel
Bratislava YIMBY
 
Amrafel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bratislava, Slovakia/Prague, Czech Republic
Posts: 7,743
Likes (Received): 4987

I dont like that building, Opera buildings are always beautiful and elegant and I dont see any elegance on this...
__________________
FRESH UPDATES AND INFORMATION ABOUT BRATISLAVA DEVELOPMENT ON

BRATISLAVA YIMBY.
Amrafel no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 14th, 2008, 12:04 PM   #80
c0kelitr0
Resident Whore
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Manila-Canberra
Posts: 2,602
Likes (Received): 21

the design is really stunning! another architectural wonder in the making!
c0kelitr0 no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
dubai, opera, zaha hadid

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 02:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu