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Old July 30th, 2009, 11:58 AM   #41
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Conventional all seaters? Psh.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 12:02 PM   #42
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Alright poor choice of words but then again I'd call these 'bleachers' benches.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 12:39 PM   #43
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Alright poor choice of words but then again I'd call these 'bleachers' benches.
they may be benches but they are still individually marked seats.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 03:05 PM   #44
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Are they comfortable or does it not matter at all?

But chairs with armrests - whats that about?
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Old July 30th, 2009, 05:09 PM   #45
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Are they comfortable or does it not matter at all?

But chairs with armrests - whats that about?
A lot of people stand, so it doesnt matter, but its still completely different from terracing.

And by armrests, i mean armrests.

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Old July 30th, 2009, 06:26 PM   #46
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Are they comfortable or does it not matter at all?

But chairs with armrests - whats that about?
Having been to quite a few games at Sanford, I can attest that you can sit comfortably.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 07:56 PM   #47
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Fire code usually allows a minimum of 18 inches per spectator. Its the same as seats in most non-club sections. The difference is, the arm rest space is missing.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 11:00 PM   #48
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thats interesting .. cause i think the 100 000 college stadiums really look like 100 000 stadiums , just by the physical size of the seating bowl. but then i heard some people say that bleachers increase capacity, which is one reason alot of college stadiums have so huge capacities, and saying that the huge college stadiums only are big because of bleachers..

but stadiums in europe dont have armrests in general , so that should mean that a 92 000 bleacher seated college bowl = 92 000 european plastic seat stadium = maybe 75-80 000 nfl stadium ?

which means that this stadium really is bigger than san siro and stade the france even with plastic seats, the confusion that this is not the case is reffering to AMERICAN pro stadium seats taking more space compared to bleachers, not european stadiums compared to bleachers?

am i right?
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Old July 31st, 2009, 01:40 AM   #49
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Leg room probably comes into it as well. European stadiums will have large sections devoted to press and VIPs but that must be the same for NFL stadiums.

It just doesn't look big enough to be 92,000 when you compare it to Soccer city (91,000+) or Wembley (90,000).
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Leg room probably comes into it as well. European stadiums will have large sections devoted to press and VIPs but that must be the same for NFL stadiums.

It just doesn't look big enough to be 92,000 when you compare it to Soccer city (91,000+) or Wembley (90,000).
American stadiums use press boxes. The media doesnt sit out in the open.
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Old August 1st, 2009, 01:08 AM   #51
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It doesn't look like a 92,000 seater stadium so those seats put in must be narrower than usual. Still, if they're useable then perhaps we could see college stadiums become a conventional all-seater.
Trust me, elite college teams usually cram far more fans into their stadiums than their denoted capcities allow (much to many a fire marshal's chagrin).

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2009/Intern...S_CAPACITY.pdf
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Old August 1st, 2009, 08:35 PM   #52
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I think the size of these college stadiums is far underestimated. They aren't as tall as NFL stadiums because they don't have as many levels of suites. JerryWorld has freakin 5 levels of suites. Still they have to maintain 18" per seat

You don't get 100+ % by cramming more people into the stands. Every stadium has a set capacity and that's how many they seat. But there's also attendance. You get there in 2 ways. 1.) attendance is a measure of everyone at the game including security, guests and media on the field. That can swell the attendance by up to 1,000 sometimes. A big game will have the field surrounded by a swell of media and VIPs. 2.) Non-seated guests in the suites and clubs. The capacity can only count the number of seats in each suite and club area, but if Exxon or Nike is having a party in their suite they will have more than the 12 or so seats in the areas behind the suites.

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Does the hedge symbolize anything other than being a hedge? Because Kenan Stadium has one too and I've always wondered.
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Georgia apparently started the trend when this stadium was built. Don't know why, but always thought it looked good.
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Old August 2nd, 2009, 10:30 PM   #55
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Does the hedge symbolize anything other than being a hedge? Because Kenan Stadium has one too and I've always wondered.
A lot of Southern college football stadiums have hedges, except in the states of Kentucky and Virginia.
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Old August 5th, 2009, 11:02 AM   #56
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I think the size of these college stadiums is far underestimated. They aren't as tall as NFL stadiums because they don't have as many levels of suites.
Many college stadiums are adding multiple level suites as well during renovations.

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Old August 6th, 2009, 04:36 AM   #57
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Many college stadiums are adding multiple level suites as well during renovations.
But in college stadiums suites are usually built on top of the seating bowl, not into it.

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Old August 6th, 2009, 07:35 AM   #58
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Exactly. In college you usually see this

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or this

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Notice that the club seats are usually integrated into stands below the suites

in the NFL you usually see this

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or this

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in the NFL stadiums, you usually have a seperated club level tier or two as well as suites between the highest seats. Mount Davis and Cowboys Stadium are probably the most extreme examples.


On the other hand, Ford Field and Lambeau Field are college like in execution. Notice how short the stands look in comparison to other NFL venues.

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Soldier Field is probably the best compromise between the philosophies
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Its like the club and suite situation creates an optical illusion that makes college stadiums seem so much shorter

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Old August 6th, 2009, 07:43 AM   #59
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Ford Field has arguably the best upper deck in the NFL.
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Old August 6th, 2009, 11:32 PM   #60
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Lambeau Field looks stunning as ever and the boxes at Soldier Field look incredibly high!
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