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Old June 11th, 2008, 11:37 PM   #1
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MISC | Abolished mass-transit networks

I doubt there be many, but please list any abolished metro network/route!

Montreal's l'Expo-Express is the only abolished --or temporary-- metro system that I know of -- its photo's followed by a link to some info sheet on it.

from URBANPHOTO, http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/wp-co...o-express1.jpg:


STM's info sheet: http://www.stm.info/info/infostm/2002/020806.pdf

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Old June 11th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #2
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Liverpool Overhead Railway... A travesty that it was closed and demolished!

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Old June 12th, 2008, 01:46 AM   #3
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Right! I really love the first photo you tried linking here, fascinating.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 02:08 AM   #4
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I'll have a go with this one:


This is a view from the Pier Head looking up Brunswick Street.

The Liverpool Overhead Railway was so unique this side of the Atlantic that its loss was very keenly felt and people still talk about rebuilding all or part of the system although there have been no serious proposals.

If it was around today, it would undoubtably be a great tourist attraction but, given the financial strictures of the 1950s and the loss of much of the market for which it was built, closure was probably inevitable.

The line was created as a fast passenger transport route following the line of the Dock Road and reflected the fact that the route was continually blocked by slow moving horse-drawn traffic - principally the carts that carried cargo to and from ships. There was a need for ships crews, messengers, dock labour and ship repairmen to travel the length of the Dock Road and so there was a ready market for the railway.

Nowadays, the port has migrated downstream to Seaforth at the furthest extent of the LOR and the old South and Central Docks have been or are being developed as residential, office or tourist areas. The demand for movement along the Dock Road is far less and could be served better by a tram system.

Still, it would be nice to see part of the LOR reconstructed. Dingle underground station at the southern terminus of the line is still intact (used as a car repair workshop) but little remains of the rest of the route. The new Museum of Liverpool, due to open in 2010 will have a partial reconstruction of a section of the LOR route and feature a preserved motor coach.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 02:40 AM   #5
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I assume you just mean subway systems (because nearly all significant cities in the United States had streetcar/trolly lines that have since been abandoned.)

Cincinnati has an abandoned subway line with tunnels that still exist to this day.
http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/subway.html
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Old June 12th, 2008, 06:21 AM   #6
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Old June 12th, 2008, 09:56 AM   #7
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The Petite Ceinture (inner ring) in Paris: a 100% urban line that used to loop around central Paris. Partially undergound and partially overground. With its wide gauge and its connexions to the other railways line, this line really looks line the London Circle Line.
Too bad it has been closed in 1937 (and 1981 for a short remainig section).
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Old June 12th, 2008, 10:00 AM   #8
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Half of Budapest's tram network was demolished in the commie ear,so its now only about 350km,and a lot of suburban rail lines were closed/demolished too.

Tramlines ceased to exist in the city of Kecskemét,Nyíregyháza and Pécs,4 lines were closed in Debrecen(from 5),a lot was curtailed in Szeged....fortunately Debrecen,Szeged and Miskolc will extend/rebuild some of these lines until 2010.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 10:15 AM   #9
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Rochester, New York had a subway line that was later abandoned. You can still access it though, it is popular with urban explorers.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 06:53 PM   #10
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Hmmm, I heard about Cincinatti's but didn't know about Rochester's having one. Was Rochester's subway ever commissioned into service?



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The Petite Ceinture (inner ring) in Paris: a 100% urban line
100%? I ask this coz I remember seeing its leftover nearby some southern Porte on the edge of town there, being some seemingly single-track infrastructure.

Anyhow, just to clarify, the nature of trams is in no way mass-transit -- thanking you in advance for your categorical omission here.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 11:13 PM   #11
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100%? I ask this coz I remember seeing its leftover nearby some southern Porte on the edge of town there, being some seemingly single-track infrastructure.
Yes, the PC was a real urban network with 1 stop every km, connexions to most of the railways and interchanges with a huge number of tram and metro lines. There was a double track all the way excepted in the west, where there were four tracks, 2 for a circular service (steam) and 2 for a local service (electric) between Auteuil and Pont Cardinet. Unfortunatly the project to upgrade it to the metro standards with electrically powered trains all the way was challenged by the metro. As I said Paris missed the opporunity to have a huge "London style" Circle Line..
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Apart from the third avenue and the 2nd ave. els (not to mention the other branches knocked down in Brooklyn)which stretched well into the Bronx from Manhattan, we also lost the Myrtle Avenue EL in Brooklyn. This line was knocked down in the late 60's. It's a real shame, I'm sure we could've easily had the largest "subway" network in the world if we had kept these lines.




This last pic is from Forgotten-ny where one can find the story of this line and some pics. Here's the link, incase any of you's are interested.
http://www.forgotten-ny.com/SUBWAYS/...myrtle.el.html
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Old June 13th, 2008, 12:04 AM   #13
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okay, so lurking around the forgotten-ny website, I managed to find this video of a ride on the third avenue el (demolished in the mid 50's).



If one didn't know any better, they'd think they're in Chicago!!
Here's the story on forgotten-ny...
http://www.forgotten-ny.com/SUBWAYS/...l/thirdav.html
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Toronto was working on an Eglinton Ave subway line, until the Conservatives got in and not only canceled it, but filled it back in with concrete. Now they are going to resurrect it as an underground LRT, and re-tunnel it.

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Old June 13th, 2008, 09:18 AM   #15
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Hmmm, I heard about Cincinatti's but didn't know about Rochester's having one. Was Rochester's subway ever commissioned into service?
It ran from 1928 to 1957. Here is a report from Infiltration:

http://infiltration.org/transit-roch.html
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Toronto was working on an Eglinton Ave subway line, until the Conservatives got in and not only canceled it, but filled it back in with concrete. Now they are going to resurrect it as an underground LRT, and re-tunnel it.

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Whoa, they actually filled it in? There must have been some structural reason. Otherwise, that's unbelievably pigheaded.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 11:31 AM   #17
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Rochester NY had an up and running subway system that has been completely shut down since the mid 20th century.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 10:46 AM   #18
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Right! I really love the first photo you tried linking here, fascinating.

Whoopsy, forgot SubBrit didn't allow embedding, now fixed

I love this one:

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Looks like Chicago or New York, not Liverpool!

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Rochester, New York had a subway line that was later abandoned. You can still access it though, it is popular with urban explorers.
So this is true? Wow, I really want to visit such place. It should have awesome atmosphere and mystical feeling.
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So this is true? Wow, I really want to visit such place. It should have awesome atmosphere and mystical feeling.
It wasn't a heavy rail subway line. More like a streetcar in a tunnel type of subway.
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