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Old August 23rd, 2011, 08:49 AM   #101
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LA street car fit LA when it was a city of population 600k. Alone it would never be able to cope with new the millions living there alone
Yes, but the lines(especially the Pacific Electric lines, of which many of them ran on private ROW) could have easily been upgraded to Light Rail. In fact, all the new light rail lines run on old PE ROWs, so....
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Old August 23rd, 2011, 04:18 PM   #102
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Yes, but the lines(especially the Pacific Electric lines, of which many of them ran on private ROW) could have easily been upgraded to Light Rail. In fact, all the new light rail lines run on old PE ROWs, so....
L.A. would have eventually needed separate-ROW heavy rail corridors (like it has now), but the streetcars would have augmented these nicely, as they do in Munich, Rome, or Marseilles today.
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Old August 23rd, 2011, 07:20 PM   #103
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LA street car fit LA when it was a city of population 600k. Alone it would never be able to cope with new the millions living there alone
Actually, if Big Oil, Big Auto and Tire companies did not conspire to destroy this system LA would not be suffering from severe sprawl and pollution today and its residents would not have so many health problems due to sitting in cars all day instead of walking. LA would be a more compact liveable city today. But just like today, US is controlled by Big Corporations who do not care about the people one bit.
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Old August 24th, 2011, 04:37 AM   #104
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LA street car fit LA when it was a city of population 600k. Alone it would never be able to cope with new the millions living there alone
So the system should have grown and expanded along with the city, upgraded some to lightrail, supported by a strong backbone of metro/subways.
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Old August 26th, 2011, 03:28 AM   #105
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Before the elevated Washington Street segment of Boston's Orange Line was burrowed
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Old January 27th, 2012, 06:41 PM   #116
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Old January 27th, 2012, 08:04 PM   #118
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Metro in Oslo was divided in two once

Oslo have had metro since 1900! But first in 1990 that the metro could go all the way from west to east.

The west part of Oslo had powerhead lines for metro. Stations were small, only for 2 wagons etc and had many streetlevel crossings. Nationaltheateret was the last stop for every western lines.

The eastern part of Oslo started of as tramlines which in the end turned into real metro with 3rd rail power. Jernbanetorget was the last stop for every eastern lines.

So here I take you back in history and hope you like it.

Majorstuen area


A 2 wagon set crawling over, near Majorstuen


Old wagon. They were blue. Here at Majorstuen station. Majorstuen is still in use today,
but all overhead powerlines are gone now


In a time before west and east got connected. The west got these nice red wagons. Also only 2 wagon sets, because at that time the whole western network had 2 wagon length stations. The eastern part got platforms for 6 wagons from the start, but is also much younger. 1900 vs 1960 here


In the end these eastern red wagons started to run on western side. See the third rails. Now these wagons is gone and replaced with white ones :/ pitty...


Look at the information sign in front. Nationaltheateret. To get between Nationaltheateret and Jernbanetorget, you had to take tram or buss. Stortinget station wasnt built even.


These wagons was nice!!! So comfortable riding them, and if you notice on this and other older wagon pictures. There are skii holders outside of the wagon. This invention is gone now and I bet it wont come back. Is there any other metro system in the world that had skii holders like that? If so, post it.


Frøen station on Sognsvannsbanen. This part of the station is no more, but on Line 1 its still in use




Nationaltheateret station in its old days.

Oslo might be a very small capital with only 500 000 people, but at same time since the early 1900s, this town got a metro and tram system. This started before Norway became an oil nation, which I am so happy with as if Norway found oil earlier etc.. there wouldnt be much less metros and trams in Oslo. The oil have blinded Norwegians which is soo sad. Sigh!...
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Old January 28th, 2012, 07:58 AM   #119
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Today, 28 January 2012, marks the 50th anniversary of the closure of the last two streetcar lines in Washington DC, the 14th St. NW line (between C St. SW and Colorado Ave. NW) and the 90 line between the Calvert St. NW Bridge and the 11th St. SE Bridge, via Calvert St. NW, 18th St. NW, U St. NW, Florida Ave. NW & NE, 8th St. NE & SE, M St. SE.

But the good news is that light rail will reopen along H St. NE and other routes very soon.
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Old January 29th, 2012, 05:57 AM   #120
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Sydney Tram Network (1861-1961). It was the second largest tram system in the world, however it fell victim of the anti-rail, pro-road sentiment during the 1950s.

Sydney re-instated light rail in 1997, with a very short (100m) section of shared street running, the rest being either through pedestrian areas or on an old freight alignment. It was extended in 2000, and another extention is currently under construction.

Sydney's old trams:

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Sydney tram, 1960 or '61 by Kevin Danks, on Flickr

Sydney's new light rail:

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Sydney Light Rail "Tram" by Squeakaz, on Flickr
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Sydney light rail by Roving I, on Flickr
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