MIAMI GARDENS - Sun Life Stadium (75,540)

[GunnerJacket]

Originally Posted by massp88

Qwest is not like the proposal for Dolphin, as all stands will be completely covered. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the main purpose of the roof at Qwest for noise amplification?

It's largely for protection from the elements, as Seattle is known for frequent, though comparably mild, rain and wind. It's also a structural item in balancing and tightening the upper tier at it's anchor points. Sound amplification was a factor, but hardly the primary reason. Especially considering the cost.

[Jim856796]

The 44th Super Bowl should be the last time a Super Bowl is held at Dolphin Stadium in its current appearance. After this year, they're going to go ahead with these renovations. A new roof covering the stands (I thought they were going to add a retractable roof to this facility, but I guess what they recently proposed is better), new video screens at each of the corners, (apparently) new escalators between all four of the dual entrance towers, the addition of a few rows of seating to the stadium, this is liable to be one of the best American Football venues in the US. And it would make a great soccer venue as well.

[ryebreadraz]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

The 44th Super Bowl should be the last time a Super Bowl is held at Dolphin Stadium in its current appearance. After this year, they're going to go ahead with these renovations. A new roof covering the stands (I thought they were going to add a retractable roof to this facility, but I guess what they recently proposed is better), new video screens at each of the corners, (apparently) new escalators between all four of the dual entrance towers, the addition of a few rows of seating to the stadium, this is liable to be one of the best American Football venues in the US. And it would make a great soccer venue as well.

Where did you hear they're going to do it after this year? Every report I've seen says they're investigating this renovation, haven't put a price tag on it yet and haven't decided how they play on funding it.

[soup or man]

So after the Super Bowl, this stadium will be renamed (AGAIN) to Sun Life Stadium.

[gavstar00]

Originally Posted by soup or man

So after the Super Bowl, this stadium will be renamed (AGAIN) to Sun Life Stadium.

Joe Robbie Stadium (1987–1996)
Pro Player Park (1996)
Pro Player Stadium (1996–2005)
Dolphins Stadium (2005-2006)
Land Shark Stadium (2009–2010)[1]
Dolphin Stadium (2006–2009; 2010)
Sun Life Stadium (2010-present)[2]

You know they say it's bad luck to rename a boat - I wonder is the same true of stadiums

[vij]

just call it "dan marino stadium" and call it a day.

[Sea Toby]

Joe Robbie used to own the bulk of the Dolphins NFL franchise, the reason why this stadium in the beginning was named after him. When this stadium was built one of the part owners along with Joe Robbie was George Gillett, a person Liverpool may be familiar with currently....

There is a bit of controversy with naming rights for stadiums throughout the world really. The Liverpool FC hopes to generate 240 million pounds for the naming rights to their new stadium. Again, the funds won't be allocated up front, but over a period of years.

Many fans of the Liverpool FC are too concerned with debt. In their minds any debt servicing, those interest rates, subtract from transfer funds. Nevermind the new stadium will generate twice as much revenue each year.

And as can be noticed with many naming rights to stadiums, after the naming rights period of time is over, naming rights can be sold again. Notice this has already happened with what once was Joe Robbie Stadium.

If soccer, football to the rest of the world, can sell the name on the front of their shirts, they will most likely sell the name of their stadiums. There once was a time when the name on the front of the jersey meant a whole lot more than the name on the back.

Using Liverpool's example, 240 million now to help finance the stadium over a period of years, and then later another 240 million selling the name again 20 years from now will eventually pay off the long term loan completely. Similar to the new shirt sponsorship with Standard Charters Bank replacing the shirt sponsorship of the beer company... Liverpool shirts went from a 10 million sponsorship to a 80 million sponsorship.

[1772]

UEFA are increasingly hammering down on clubs with debt, so I think the Liverpool stance is quite healthy.

[vaybee]

nice stadium

[Jim856796]

The name of this stadium had been renamed "Sun Life Stadium" as of Januarty 2010. The deal will last for five years. However, we will refuse to recognise any corporate sponsored anmed the Dolphins Stadium might have. This is the third corporate sponsor anme the stadium will have. Someday, the stadium will have had too many name changes and may permanently revert to the Dolphin Stadium name or some other non-corporate sponsor name. I don't even trust corporate sponsors, they always want to change our stadium's names too much.

The name of the stadium should have been "The Joe Robbie/Pro Player/LandShark/Sun Life Dolphins Stadium".

[KingmanIII]

I don't think the renovation photos have been posted yet:

[en1044]

Originally Posted by KingmanIII

I don't think the renovation photos have been posted yet:

Already on page 3

[weava]

Originally Posted by KingmanIII

I don't think the renovation photos have been posted yet:

thats terrible, whats wrong with just remodleing the lower deck to remove the baseball elements. I see no need for a roof over a freaking football stadium in a city with nice weather

[rantanamo]

Originally Posted by weava

thats terrible, whats wrong with just remodleing the lower deck to remove the baseball elements. I see no need for a roof over a freaking football stadium in a city with nice weather

Reading their release, they would remove the baseball elements but retain a good field width. They're probably adding a roof for

a.) Wanting to win another Superbowl bid after it rained on their previous Superbowl

b.) The World Cup. Expect some other roofs from those that are chosen and don't have roofs, though there would be very few.

[jean1991]

Yeah, it doesn't make much sense does it? Maybe because of the sun, i guess...The 4 screens in each corner don't make sense either, I think 2 screens in opposites corner should do.

[Bobby3]

Originally Posted by weava

thats terrible, whats wrong with just remodleing the lower deck to remove the baseball elements. I see no need for a roof over a freaking football stadium in a city with nice weather

Warm weather? Yes.

Dry weather? Couldn't be more wrong. Miami is one of America's rainiest cities, and it's even rainier just north of Miami where the stadium is located.

Nine of the top 10 cities for thunderstorms in America are in Florida (the other's metro spills into Florida), Miami-Ft. Lauderdale is a top 10 city for tropical storm and hurricane landfall, and the state is number one for lightning strikes.

But, I'm sure there are other things about it you can hate.

[RaiderATO]

I've seen it come up plenty of times in the stadium threads, but I'd like to know a definitive answer and I have no idea of where to start looking. . . .

For the World Cup apparently a certain # of seats need to be "covered". Are luxury/press boxes/suites etc. sufficient? I'm assuming since most of the "US can't host a WC in most of their stadiums" crowd aren't from the states that they don't realize the amount of covered space our FB stadiums have (even college stadiums). I just don't know a definitive answer.

And for rantanamo: If not for the above, why would you expect US stadiums to get roofs for the WC?

[rantanamo]

Originally Posted by RaiderATO

I've seen it come up plenty of times in the stadium threads, but I'd like to know a definitive answer and I have no idea of where to start looking. . . .

For the World Cup apparently a certain # of seats need to be "covered". Are luxury/press boxes/suites etc. sufficient? I'm assuming since most of the "US can't host a WC in most of their stadiums" crowd aren't from the states that they don't realize the amount of covered space our FB stadiums have (even college stadiums). I just don't know a definitive answer.

And for rantanamo: If not for the above, why would you expect US stadiums to get roofs for the WC?

If you go to the FIFA website, they put out a .pdf once in a while with their World Cup guidlines and recommendations

http://www.fifa.com/mm/51/54/02/foot...ts_en_8211.pdf


I actually agree with you and don't think many of our international friends understand. Read different parts of that document. Not many requirements. Lots of recommendations. Things like lighting, press and VIP under a roof, field dimensions(This is a ridiculous excuse. Nations can spend billions on new stadiums and renovations but a NFL owner can knock out a few rows and grow some grass?) are givens. Any NFL stadium has more than 150 press spots in their press box. Any NFL stadium has more than 50 suites. Any NFL stadium far exceeds lighting, parking, locker room and communication recommendations right now.

So that leaves you in a big tie. Now its up to fluff. Who can control the weather? Who has lots of hotels. Who can cover all or most spectators. Who has even more club seats, suites, lounge areas for more international celebrities.

I would expect Miami, DC, San Diego(likely a new stadium by 2022) and even the new Giants Stadium to go roof by then. Philly maybe. The Rose Bowl has been looking at all kinds of renovations. I would imagine it happens before then with a small roof. Not just because of the World Cup, but because everytime a new retractable roof wonder opens, it becomes harder and harder for those without to land Superbowls.

[massp88]

Originally Posted by rantanamo

Reading their release, they would remove the baseball elements but retain a good field width. They're probably adding a roof for

a.) Wanting to win another Superbowl bid after it rained on their previous Superbowl

b.) The World Cup. Expect some other roofs from those that are chosen and don't have roofs, though there would be very few.

Miami will continue to win SBs regardless of it they put a roof on.

[rantanamo]

Originally Posted by massp88

Miami will continue to win SBs regardless of it they put a roof on.

Miami has been part of a tighter group of stadiums that aren't part of the equation anymore. That's why they are proposing the roof in the first place. Remember, it rained on Peyton last time he was in the Superbowl. New commish, new gen of stadiums open and ready to host. No gurantees. Just as I said, its about keeping up with the competition. Not to mention competition in town with the new Marlins Stadiums as well. Remember it will have a roof, making it capable of hosting events a roofless Landshark or whatever its name will be cannot.