MIAMI GARDENS - Sun Life Stadium (75,540)

[KingmanIII]

Originally Posted by Benn

There have certainly been rumblings from the top down about various stadiums that are fairly recent, The Georgia Dome, Rangers Ballpark, Fedex Field have all had some discussions of replacement. All seem to have fixable problems, other than the complaint of Fedex being soulless and wrong.

Nothing tops the "old" Miami Arena which was built for the Heat and lasted only 11 years, thoroughly discraceful for a purpose built facility to last less than 30 years, this one barely a third of that.

replaced by TWO arenas

there's also Amway in Orlando

[rantanamo]

Originally Posted by eMKay

I can't think of any 20 year old stadiums that are being torn down. The only ones that have rumors of that are either poorly designed or in the wrong location. (FedEx, Tropicana field) This is a multipurpose stadium that is losing one of it's tenants, and since the Marlins are leaving it can be turned into a football stadium. It's being renovated not torn down.

Arlington Stadium was about 23
Reunion Arena was about 23
Texas Stadium was about 39, but Jerry had designs on killing that place about 13-14 years ago.

you're right. Still young and I wouldn't count on their replacements lasting much longer. Too much trendy building in US professional sports unless the new venues somehow become endeared into the psyche of North Texas sports. That era likely sailed long ago outside of total financial collapse.

[Jim856796]

The first two facilities listed were 29 at the time of their deaths.

[eMKay]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

The first two facilities listed were 29 at the time of their deaths.

And not suitable. The stadiums that replaced them will last a lot longer.

[Luke80]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

And the Delle Alpi Stadium in Turin was only 19 years old when it passed. Waste of a good stadium in a city that thinks it is too large for the stadium. Should have been built in a larger city.

Good? It was awful.

[Darloeye]

How come fenway park and wrigley field are still around ?

[Benn]

History, tradition and more importantly they are ballparks built/expanded to size that is still in line with league standard and were able to retofit in enough premium seating. Both have a fair number of suites added in under the upper level, and Fenway has club seats on the 200 and 300 levels behind the plate. They are also able to charge high ticket prices despite older fan facilities, I believe tickets at Fenway top out at around $400 a game, which is substantially higher than the league average for seats around home plate.

Baseball is probably the most conservative in this country and is big on history and tradition (it has lots of parallels with cricket), the NBA in contrast is about as big on its own history as Las Vegas. So the historical value of an older park is generally held in higher regard than in the other professional sports in this country.

[Darloeye]

FYI I HATE CRICKET ! Its the worse "sport" in the world to play in a hour PE lession. plus the scoring system is weird the game takes way to long to play and CAN still end in a draw.

[Benn]

Getting a little off topic, but no argument from me on cricket being weird archiac and boring. Baseball I would say is to a substantially lesser degree, but I have many of the same complaints about both sports.

[Darloeye]

Originally Posted by Benn

Getting a little off topic, but no argument from me on cricket being weird archiac and boring. Baseball I would say is to a substantially lesser degree, but I have many of the same complaints about both sports.

Yes sorry about that 3am uk time after few pubs

Do like alot of sports but cricket and basketball are not for me. Maybe cos I played them school who knows

[jay stew]

Originally Posted by rantanamo

Arlington Stadium was about 23
Reunion Arena was about 23
Texas Stadium was about 39, but Jerry had designs on killing that place about 13-14 years ago.

you're right. Still young and I wouldn't count on their replacements lasting much longer. Too much trendy building in US professional sports unless the new venues somehow become endeared into the psyche of North Texas sports. That era likely sailed long ago outside of total financial collapse.

Don't forget the Richfield Coliseum in Ohio which only lasted 20 years and the Charlotte Coliseum which lasted 19!

[Luke80]

Originally Posted by Benn

Getting a little off topic, but no argument from me on cricket being weird archiac and boring. Baseball I would say is to a substantially lesser degree, but I have many of the same complaints about both sports.

Baseball is far slower moving IMO.

[Mr. Fitz]

Originally Posted by JYDA

It wasn't that simple. It was horribly designed. A track stadium not capable of hosting track events, field not visible from the lower tier, and WAY too big of a capacity.

Couldn't agree more, they had a 5000 attendance for a CL game once, enough said.

[cmc]

Originally Posted by KingmanIII

I don't think the renovation photos have been posted yet:

I guess if they do this renovation it's going to a be a first for the NFL because that roof gives it a EURO soccer vibe.

[weava]

Originally Posted by cmc

I guess if they do this renovation it's going to a be a first for the NFL because that roof gives it a EURO soccer vibe.

The four towers remind me of the alamodome and the 4 giant videoboards are extremely american so its still pretty american looking to me.

[Jim856796]

I hope the space for the seating area won't be wasted by those new scoreboards. If so, the seating capacity of this stadium may be reduced.

[Benn]

Because they are realigning the lower deck (if you look closely there are a bunch more rows on the sidelines in the render) the capacity would remain about the same. And given the NFL's blackout rules they may have been leary of increasing the capacity much past 75,000. Personally I think it looks a lot better, the separated upper portions gives some interest to it, and some nice openings to the concourse below the video boards. Although the change in seat color would help as much as anything with the aesthetics in my opnion.

[Pelt]

Originally Posted by cmc

I guess if they do this renovation it's going to a be a first for the NFL because that roof gives it a EURO soccer vibe.

I kinda thought the roofing to Paul Brown Stadium in Cincy had a Euro soccer look to it.

[Benn]

I can't think of a single European stadium Paul Brown reminds me of, maybe reminiscent of some European architecture in general but not sports related. its a very crisp asymmetric modern design and asymmetry isn't real popular in Europe. Certainly one of the more unique designs out there, and one of my favorites.

[rantanamo]

Originally Posted by cmc

I guess if they do this renovation it's going to a be a first for the NFL because that roof gives it a EURO soccer vibe.

first what? Non-retractable roof over the seats? Qwest, Cleveland Stadium and Texas Stadium say hello. If you mean cable stayed? The Alamodome says hello.