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Old June 29th, 2008, 06:51 PM   #81
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The new RandMcNally looks ok. However, this summer I will still use the 1978 version, which is quite good.
Well, I don't know where you're going but we've built a couple of roads since then.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:01 PM   #82
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When I used it in 2003 I didn't have any problems with new roads. This year I will use it in Eastern Washington state and in Alaska, if everything goes by plan.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #83
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Buy a new one at bol.com, Timon. It only costs € 15 + shipping costs. You can pay with an acceptgiro, very easy. I do it all the time
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:40 PM   #84
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The new RandMcNally looks ok. However, this summer I will still use the 1978 version, which is quite good.
lmao :P
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:51 PM   #85
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Buy a new one at bol.com, Timon. It only costs € 15 + shipping costs. You can pay with an acceptgiro, very easy. I do it all the time
For using it once every 5 years? Not necessary. btw, there are only a few roads in Alaska, and my route in Washington state is very simple: follow I-395 north, cross the Canadian border, and then turn left.
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There is no I-395 in Washington So I'd definatly buy a new map :P

You probably mean US 395.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:54 PM   #87
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Road 395, whatever
Btw, there is nothing wrong with old stuff. For my French exam last week I've used a dictionary from 1954, still very useful.
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It seems like some posts have disappeared (or am I just crazy?)
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Old June 29th, 2008, 10:14 PM   #89
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Road 395, whatever
Btw, there is nothing wrong with old stuff. For my French exam last week I've used a dictionary from 1954, still very useful.
The average infrastructure changes a little bit more often than the french vocabulary, don't you think?
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Old June 29th, 2008, 10:39 PM   #90
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Yes, but roads don't dissappear that quickly, and the current route I use is quite straightforward, so the 1978 version is still great
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Old July 1st, 2008, 07:16 AM   #91
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I buy them online, usually at bol.com, something like amazon.com
However, they're more expensive than in the US, where the newest Rand McNally Atlas cost about 12 dollars, while it was 24 dollars here.

I considered buying it in the US with my creditcard, however, shipping costs ruled the price-advantage thing out.

OK thanks a lot.
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Mapart, they make all sorts of Canadian maps, and have made a few good US maps. Their mapping style is very colourful and extremely clear and concise.

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Couldnt agree with you more. Mapart maps are truly superb. Have to say even better than Michelin's and they are very good.Quite the worst in North America are Rand McNally's. Unfortunately they have the clout and the distribution so that RM maps are about all you can find in The USA.
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I wish I could find a detailed Chinese road atlas.
Hoosier, I found an excellent map of China ( scale 1:3,800,000 )at Barnes and Noble.
It is produced by International Travel Maps, 530 West Broadway,Vancouver BC V5Z 1E9
I have been using it to read a book called " China Road " where the author, Rob Gifford, travels the entire 2998 miles (4825 Km) of China's route 312 from Shanghai to the Kazakhstan border. A great read !
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Yes, but roads don't dissappear that quickly, and the current route I use is quite straightforward, so the 1978 version is still great
Timon. Michelin now produces a 292 page road atlas of the USA at a scale of 1 inch=15.25km. It is great. Additionally there's a section covering the congested North East at an even larger scale.
Unlike most US road atlases, the scale is constant and it is laid out in strips across the country. Most US atlases change scale for each state so that it fits on the page ( usually one page per state )....a terrible system which distorts all concepts of distance.
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Only Hawaii is presented on one page in the RM atlas, I believe. California and New York are split up into up to 10 pages.
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Old July 1st, 2008, 11:55 PM   #97
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My 1978 RandMcNally
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(it has suffered a little )
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Only Hawaii is presented on one page in the RM atlas, I believe. California and New York are split up into up to 10 pages.
Chris they do still, I think, change scale by State do they not.
PS that Michelin road atlas also covers Canada.

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Yes they do scale the states.

@ Timon, that one looks like it's purchased right from the wild west
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 12:22 AM   #100
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I was intrested by Hallwag maps because they look great, so I visited the web site and are they worth to buy ? I'm looking for that nice Europe Atlas, over 400 pages , are they much different than Kummerly+Frey ? They not cheap tough with postage to UK, about 66 CHF... Are they availibe in other web places with shorter delivery time than 2-3 weeks ?
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