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Old March 28th, 2012, 05:01 PM   #5061
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I think they are serious not for the site plan but because they are going to partner with offsite downtown hotels, restaurants and theatres rather than build an all-inclusive self-contained cocoon. For that Buffalo can be greatful. This project will only help downtown hotels, bars theatres and restaurants rather than compete with them.

As for the design? It's about as urban as most downtown stadiums, which is not at all.. Coke Field excluded.

I think they pushed it back to ease crime fears from the backside of the property. This way they are good from the front door of the casino towards canalside. It is also pretty obvious from the site plan that they are leaving much land for possible future expansions should they decide to add a hotel a few years down the road as they did in the Falls.
your last paragraph is a GOOD point ...... They have lots of room to still expand to a hotel and "future expansion." That is HUGE! Right now i agree with what the Indians are doing by just keeping it a casino and not having a "one stop shop" Where you can gamble, eat, and shop on the property. Let Buffalo grow first ....then build your resort.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 09:12 PM   #5062
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Finally, they can start working on digging the canals at Canalside. It'll be great to see some tangible progress once again!

http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/n...ca-canals.html
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Old March 29th, 2012, 05:00 AM   #5063
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I agree that the casino is not as bad as most people are making it out be. The design is not what I was expecting but I think without the other amenities it will be a benefit to the area. What happened to Seneca Gaming having its HQ here? Also, it looks like the casino and parking garage aspects in both the 2007 and current renderings are in the same location and around the same size so I have a feeling a hotel will follow soon after this is up and running in a similar location as the old rendering.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 05:13 AM   #5064
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Maybe Buffalo should look to Miami Beach for inspiration. After all they have been booming for even more years than Buffalo has been dying.
Good point! Indeed Miami does provide an excellent example for Buffalo.

Amazing how Buffalo hosted the Pan Am Expo. Yet it was Miami that become the true Pan Am city! Here’s one from the Believe it or Not file: In 1960, Buffalo & Miami were about the same size metros! Buffalo would be doing VERY WELL today had it attracted just 10% of the immigrants that Miami has.

However given the rather extreme differences in climate, obviously Buffalo’s not the best suited for Miami Design. Also, the days when Miami (or LA for that matter) was known for ugly drive-in boxes ringed by parking lot sprawl has long since given way to Andres Duany style New Urbanism!
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Old March 29th, 2012, 03:05 PM   #5065
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Wegmans scouting downtown locations....

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Old March 29th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #5066
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The Seneca's have an opportunity to help create and build up the Cobblestone/Canalside area as an exciting destination, even with a reduced footprint. Instead they are building a suburban style car oriented bunker which will have negligible impact on the surrounding area. At least they'll hire more people(though the number they're giving out is BS), and the site plan is so open that they could actually make urban friendly down the line, though they won't.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 05:53 PM   #5067
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I think you meant to put this on the Boston Forum though, I am not sure anyone thinks of a grocery store in Boston as economic development in Buffalo

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Old March 29th, 2012, 06:43 PM   #5068
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I am not sure anyone thinks of a grocery store as economic development.
A while ago you posted here about Mighty Taco opening up in Rochester.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 07:46 PM   #5069
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That was on the Rochester board not on the Boston board. Plus Mighty Taco is a Buffalo company so it could help the Buffalo economy. A Rochester company on Boston has no impact on Buffalo's economy.

You can post whatever you want, I just thought you made a mistake and meant your comment for the Boston board where it WOULD be relevant. I didn't mean to offend you.

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Old March 29th, 2012, 08:34 PM   #5070
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That was on the Rochester board not on the Boston board. Plus Mighty Taco is a Buffalo company so it could help the Buffalo economy. A Rochester company on Boston has no impact on Buffalo's economy.

You can post whatever you want, I just thought you made a mistake and meant your comment for the Boston board where it WOULD be relevant. I didn't mean to offend you.
Just thought I'd get the local folks going on wanting a Wegmans downtown... that's all.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 09:00 PM   #5071
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Medical school designs unveiled

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Old March 30th, 2012, 06:37 AM   #5072
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A developer friend says that Dino BBQ has a lease in hand for a Buffalo location. I've heard two rumors- Niagara Street and also near the Medical Campus.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 08:54 AM   #5073
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A developer friend says that Dino BBQ has a lease in hand for a Buffalo location. I've heard two rumors- Niagara Street and also near the Medical Campus.
Niagara st would have to be the old rascals ice cream joint hust south of forest, which would be great to see some activity there. I can't picture anyplace near the med campus, maybe a new build on michigan?
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Old March 30th, 2012, 02:12 PM   #5074
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Niagara st would have to be the old rascals ice cream joint hust south of forest, which would be great to see some activity there. I can't picture anyplace near the med campus, maybe a new build on michigan?
Rascals is far too small for Dino and too far from downtown. I'm thinking the building that is being redone right where you come off the Thruway at Niagara. There are an awful lot of empty storefronts along Main that could work by the Med Campus. I still would love to see them in the Cobblestone District. Fits them more when you look at the other locations they have set up shop.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 02:50 PM   #5075
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Medical School Designs

Is the is the best kept secret in all of Buffalo? Does anyone have any of the four renderings? It is kind of driving me nuts.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 02:55 PM   #5076
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Rascals is far too small for Dino and too far from downtown. I'm thinking the building that is being redone right where you come off the Thruway at Niagara. There are an awful lot of empty storefronts along Main that could work by the Med Campus. I still would love to see them in the Cobblestone District. Fits them more when you look at the other locations they have set up shop.
This is only a hunch, but I think they're working with Ellicott Development. Supposedly Carl Paladino's daughter tweeted about meeting with Dino's owners in Syracuse a few weeks ago. What that means, who knows.

But if they're working with Ellicott- speculation is the Busti Avenue bldg near the Peace Bridge where Ellicott is planning apartments OR Our Lady of Lourdes church on Main. The Catholic Diocese has put restrictions on church reuses, but I don't know if that holds on this one.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 02:57 PM   #5077
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Medical School Designs

Is the is the best kept secret in all of Buffalo? Does anyone have any of the four renderings? It is kind of driving me nuts.
Nothing! I've asked and the PR person said she was trying to put something together to send out. She also stressed that the competition was only picking the design team, not the building design. I think they may not want to share in order to not raise expectations? It was odd that the event the other night was supposed to be public and then went invite-only.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 03:46 PM   #5078
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She also stressed that the competition was only picking the design team, not the building design. I think they may not want to share in order to not raise expectations?
I'm guessing that's the real reason. They don't want to have everyone excited or complaining about how good or bad the building renderings look, since they will drastically change anyway.

The news article seemed to say that only one of the designs incorporated retail on the Main St side. I hope they will be encouraging that a little more.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 03:57 PM   #5079
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Two-way traffic on Pearl St. in works

The oft-discussed plan to convert Pearl Street in downtown Buffalo from one-way traffic into a two-way traffic is poised to happen.

City planners are fine tuning a series of bids and construction documents needed for the work. The bids will be released later this spring and awards selected during the summer.

The actual construction is slated to start by late summer or early fall and completed by next spring.
When completed, Pearl Street will see two-way traffic beginning at Tupper Street and heading south towards Lower Terrace Street.

The Pearl Street project is part of an estimated $1.5 million allocation by the City of Buffalo that also includes some streetscape improvements along Chippewa Street.


http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/b...-pearl-st.html
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Two-way traffic on Pearl St. in works

The oft-discussed plan to convert Pearl Street in downtown Buffalo from one-way traffic into a two-way traffic is poised to happen.

City planners are fine tuning a series of bids and construction documents needed for the work. The bids will be released later this spring and awards selected during the summer.

The actual construction is slated to start by late summer or early fall and completed by next spring.
When completed, Pearl Street will see two-way traffic beginning at Tupper Street and heading south towards Lower Terrace Street.

The Pearl Street project is part of an estimated $1.5 million allocation by the City of Buffalo that also includes some streetscape improvements along Chippewa Street.


http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/b...-pearl-st.html
Sounds like another "make work" project.
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