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Old March 27th, 2009, 08:05 PM   #1
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Old March 28th, 2009, 07:10 PM   #2
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Old March 29th, 2009, 12:33 AM   #3
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yeah it will be until it gets pushed down the list by other newer forum posts
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Old March 30th, 2009, 05:59 AM   #4
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Old March 30th, 2009, 11:45 AM   #5
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It seems that SA Express has started with 2 daily flights on the JNB-PLZ route as of today, with 50-seater CRJ. There was no announcement about this before. This is ofcourse together with SAA on the route still, one question though, it seems SAA now have 5 dailies on the route, has it always been 5, or did they drop 1 which SAX jumped in for.
Maybe they're planning between the two of them to hand this route over to SAX as well in the long run? JNB-ELS is slowly going that way, with most of SAA flights now with smaller A319 than 737-800, while the SAX flights is increasing from the smaller CRJ to the DH4 and CR7s.

On the IPL issues with flights from India to SA, it seems that Kingfisher is mainly going to fly a few flights just to bring in the teams, but it still needs to be finalised. Also reported that Jet Airways have received applications for charter flights...Hopefully we'll see both of them somewhere in the next 2 months!
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Old March 30th, 2009, 11:54 AM   #6
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It seems that SA Express has started with 2 daily flights on the JNB-PLZ route as of today, with 50-seater CRJ. There was no announcement about this before. This is ofcourse together with SAA on the route still, one question though, it seems SAA now have 5 dailies on the route, has it always been 5, or did they drop 1 which SAX jumped in for.
Maybe they're planning between the two of them to hand this route over to SAX as well in the long run? JNB-ELS is slowly going that way, with most of SAA flights now with smaller A319 than 737-800, while the SAX flights is increasing from the smaller CRJ to the DH4 and CR7s.
SAX did release a press release to that effect: http://www.flysax.com/south-african-...port-eliz.html
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Old March 30th, 2009, 11:57 AM   #7
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On the subject of SAX, their website now shows (as a header) an image (render) of a CRJ900 in SAX colours. No official announcement to that effect yet but maybe a sign of things to come...
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 10:55 AM   #8
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Have anyone got any info yet about flights for the IPL?
Kingfisher has announced they're working on packages and that teams and fans will be able to enjoy the service of Kingfisher to SA, but not really saying that they are actually flying and nowhere can I see special flights loaded.
SAA's flights also still all look the same, 4 weekly, mostly A340-200, found 2 flights in May with A340-300...most business class seats seem to be filled.

What about the teams moving around in SA, will they be using local carriers, or is Kingfisher bringing over an aircraft for that as well (A320, although capacity wise their ATR 72 should do...)?
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On the subject of SAX, their website now shows (as a header) an image (render) of a CRJ900 in SAX colours

Which site is that, flysax.com? I still see a 737...that doesn't and wouldn't soon have anything to do with them permanently, although they do use a 737-200 now and then when some of their aircraft gets worked on.

But the rumours were going around last year, of both more Q400s and then CRJ900s, that's why the 2 CRJ700 isn't fully painted. Hope it's still true!
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 12:54 PM   #10
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Have anyone got any info yet about flights for the IPL?
Kingfisher has announced they're working on packages and that teams and fans will be able to enjoy the service of Kingfisher to SA, but not really saying that they are actually flying and nowhere can I see special flights loaded.
SAA's flights also still all look the same, 4 weekly, mostly A340-200, found 2 flights in May with A340-300...most business class seats seem to be filled.

What about the teams moving around in SA, will they be using local carriers, or is Kingfisher bringing over an aircraft for that as well (A320, although capacity wise their ATR 72 should do...)?
ive also checked and cant see any flights loaded. the only long haul aircraft that kingfisher operate is the A330-200.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 07:29 AM   #11
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From Business Day :

South Africa: Lanseria International Said to Be for Sale

Julius Baumann

Johannesburg —
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LANSERIA International, SA's largest privately owned airport, is believed to be up for sale, possibly to a foreign group of investors.

While rumours of its imminent sale have circulated for years, speculation reached fever pitch this year with businesses operating from the airport being approached by potential buyers in the past few weeks to sound out their plans at the airport.

A spokesman for the airport, who did not want to be named, said this week that the airport had not been sold, but did not rule out a sale in future.

"I can categorically state that the airport has not been sold. We have had discussions in the past with various groups and are currently in talks with various other parties."

Stephen Carlin, a Lanseria director, also denied that it had been sold. "We are always being approached by potential investors wanting to buy the airport," said Carlin, without revealing whether talks had become more serious this year.

The airport grew substantially in the past few years with a surge in traffic. kulula.com's scheduled service put the airport on the map, and the low-cost airline has continued to grow its capacity out of Lanseria.

Gidon Novick, joint CEO of Comair, which operates kulula.com, said yesterday the airline would soon add extra flights to Cape Town and Durban despite a slump in domestic travel.
"Lanseria continues to work well for us," he said. Novick said that the extra flights would begin to test Lanseria's ability to cope with many passengers.

"We are starting to see constraints on Lanseria's capacity in various part of our operations, and there is no doubt that the airport facilities will need to be expanded if we expand our flight even further."

Airport manager Gavin Sayce recently confirmed that the airport was looking at expanding, but said no plans had been finalised.
I had a look on kulula's website last night, DUR gets 4x daily (except Sat) and CPT 6x daily flights from HLA. HLA is turning out to be a goldmine for kulula.
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Old April 10th, 2009, 10:09 PM   #12
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Saudia Arabian (SV) Equipment Change

Effective 20 April 2009 SV will replace their B777-200ER with an A330-200 on the 2x weekly JNB service.

(Source : http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/)
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Old April 15th, 2009, 07:54 AM   #13
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Eish....

1Time says sorry

Article By: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:17

South African airline 1Time on Tuesday apologised to its passengers who had to take a bus from Bredasdorp to George after an emergency landing.

"I would like to sincerely apologise to our passengers for the terrible inconvenience, but assure them that their safety and well-being was our number one priority," said 1Time CEO Rodney James in a statement.

The incident took pace on Good Friday, but the airline only confirmed on Tuesday that a Boeing 737 from Johannesburg to George had to make an emergency landing at Overberg Airforce Base near Bredasdorp.

The plane was diverted to the airforce base after it reporting a "wing flap indication warning" because the Overberg facility had a longer runway.

"Each passenger will receive a return flight voucher"

The airline said as a precautionary measure an emergency landing was declared and the aircraft landed safely with no injuries reported.

Passengers were disembarked into a training facility building and offered refreshments from the aircraft.

"Due to the unknown time required to repair the fault and the closing time of George Airport, busses were arranged to fetch our passengers and transport them to George," James said.

"Unfortunately the busses had to come from Cape Town, which meant an uncomfortably long wait for our passengers," he said.

Busses arrived around midnight and passengers arrived at the George Airport at 3.30am.

James said 1Time's George Airport staff stayed on duty throughout the night to make sure that passengers were taken care of on arrival.

"As a token of our apology, each passenger will receive a return flight voucher from our customer relations office," he said.
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Old April 15th, 2009, 09:37 PM   #14
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IPL Flights

I have been looking around to see if I can find any more info any IPL flights to RSA from India. From what I can find it seems as if SAA will upgrade BOM to an A340-600 for selected flights to accommodate IPL supporters (http://avindia.blogspot.com/2009/04/...-take-off.html).
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Old April 25th, 2009, 11:01 AM   #15
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from airliners.net I read that Air France has confirmed that JNB will be one of the first or the first route to be served by A380 from end of this year/early 2010.
They will change the one daily 77W to the A380 flight, while the other flight which is currently also operating daily with 77W will be reduced to 3 weekly, still with 77W...still I believe it is an increase in capacity, maybe depending about France's chances for the world cup they might reconsider to keep the other flight daily as well.

So, AF first with A380 into South Africa, what else do you guys think before World Cup next year, surely Emirates, probably Qantas. Both BA and Virgin would have like to, but they won't have the aircraft yet, but when they do they'll surely use them here. Lufthansa, depending on how soon they get their first ones. I don't think we'll see Singapore with them here soon.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 01:00 PM   #16
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Great news. CDG-JNB seems to be working out really well for AF.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 01:49 PM   #17
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Excellent news. Big surprise as I would've thought they'd use their first A380 to Montreal. Wonder if we'll see SAA back on the CDG route anytime soon.

In other news SAA has applied for 4 additional frequencies to Nairobi and Aik has released their JNB schedule (not sure if this has already been posted). Daily flights arriving in JNB at around 05:00 and departing around 13:00.
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Where do you get the information regarding Arik Air, can't find it on their website. Daily flights seems quite alot to start off with, even if with A330, or are they planning on using the A340-500 on this as well. And starting when?

The JNB-NBO route seems to be hotting up, that means SAA will have 2 daily flights, together with the 3 dailies of Kenya Airways (except Wed, which will probably will still be added also). Surely must be room for someone else, Comair?
On the African Aviation Forum they talk about Kenya planning to soon start flights to Gaborone and Windhoek, probably these will be triangular. Although I would believe a good bet would also be to re-introduce CPT, going via GBE, 2 or 3 weekly, and seeking rights for the CPT-GBE leg as well!
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from airliners.net I read that Air France has confirmed that JNB will be one of the first or the first route to be served by A380 from end of this year/early 2010.
They will change the one daily 77W to the A380 flight, while the other flight which is currently also operating daily with 77W will be reduced to 3 weekly, still with 77W...still I believe it is an increase in capacity, maybe depending about France's chances for the world cup they might reconsider to keep the other flight daily as well.

So, AF first with A380 into South Africa, what else do you guys think before World Cup next year, surely Emirates, probably Qantas. Both BA and Virgin would have like to, but they won't have the aircraft yet, but when they do they'll surely use them here. Lufthansa, depending on how soon they get their first ones. I don't think we'll see Singapore with them here soon.
great news regarding AF, really didnt expect it though... I know though from a reliable source at emirates in dubai... that we probably looking at the A380 in JNB in november/december... this is due to the fact that emirates have stopped using the A380 on the new york route thus freeing up 2 A380 aircraft, 1 will be going to toronto, and the other is going to be used for bangkok and JNB.

BA will definately use the A380 to JNB but it's still a while before they get their aircraft (end 2011)

QF has already mentioned JNB as one of there 10 A380 routes.. when this will happen only time will tell, as I think they will wait till 2010 WC and also till they get more A380's

All in all looks like in the next year,SA will see some exciting aircraft
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Good news re Arik Air. Daily flights don't really surprise me, South Africa - Nigeria is a really lucrative market. Arik may end up muscling Bellview of the route, although hopefully not.
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