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Old June 20th, 2008, 12:52 AM   #21
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Also is it cheap to live in these cities compared to say, London?

Philly and Chicago are the best big city bargains. SF is way overpriced...so is Boston.
NYC can be reasonable for dining if you know where to go but never for rentals or condo sales.

The only city more expensive than London is Moscow.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 03:44 AM   #22
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1.Boston
2.New York
3.Chicago
4.San Francisco
5.Seattle
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Washington DC of course
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Old June 21st, 2008, 06:52 AM   #23
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1San Francisco i may be form nre york but this is the place i would love to go to or maby even live it idk what it is about san francisco bbut for some resion i wanna live there when im done with school

2 New York City
3 Chicago
4 Los Angles
5 Miami
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Old June 21st, 2008, 07:00 AM   #24
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Skip LA
I'd add new orleans and Santa Se NEw Mexico
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Old June 21st, 2008, 07:34 AM   #25
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I disagree with some users. Most American cities are NOT walkable. The only city that I would say is walkable is NYC because I've lived there for 10 years and didn't own a car. However, now I live just outside DC and it can get very boring here. I mean it's a great "touristy" capital because of all the museums and stuff but otherwise, not too exciting for a capital city. Also, the subway stations can sometimes be too far away from each other. Philadelphia too I don't think it's a walkable city because it still has that reputation as a dangerous city (I lived there for 2 years just outside Philly in Conshohocken) and not a lot of people want to be in the downtown area of Philly after dark...maybe the only nice area is around UPENN area. But I would really recommend NYC if you have the money but would recommend Philadelphia if you would like to be in the "middle" area, meaning that Philly might be a good choice since it's the 3rd largest city in the US and DC is only 2 hrs away and NYC about 3 1/2hrs away so not too bad.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 08:11 AM   #26
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I disagree with some users. Most American cities are NOT walkable.

i also agree!

a lot of those cities on the list on page 1 said "walkable" are barely that. at most they're walkable only in a few districts.

anyways, i would agree with choosing NYC as #1. its very european(so maybe not such a huge culture shock) and has one of the most extensive subway systems in the world.

also say you're going for architecture? columbia, pratt, ccuny are the ones off the top of my head, in descending order of price(as well as reputation)
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Old June 21st, 2008, 03:47 PM   #27
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Oh also, In england we finish school alot earlier and go to college for two years then onto Uni, but will I be to young to get in a uni over in America cause I will be eighteen, nineteen when I go to Uni?
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 01:47 AM   #28
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American cities aren't walkable 'cause of their layout. Way too car-centric, straight streets, predominantly commercialised and business-centric - esp. speaking of their 'downtowns'.

NYC hardly is European. Smaller cities and towns/villages may rather have some European appeal to them, due to their oft more 'organic' structure.
Quebec is the most 'European' city in North America to me.
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 02:17 AM   #29
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Oh also, In england we finish school alot earlier and go to college for two years then onto Uni, but will I be to young to get in a uni over in America cause I will be eighteen, nineteen when I go to Uni?
lol no i started college when i was 17
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 06:23 AM   #30
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Here's my list in no particular order:

Seattle: University of Washington - One of the top schools in the country located in one of the best cities in the country. It's safe, there's lots to do, I could go on, but since I live here I'd never stop. UW is amazing in most areas, but shines in Medicine, Business, Computer Science, Biology, Environmental Sciences, and Marine Studies. Seattle is a great place to live, and I've grown up here my whole life. It's a very cutting-edge, young, diverse place with one of the US' best economies right now. Up here we're still wondering why everyone keeps complaining about a recession, no joke. Also, many people say that Vancouver is better than Seattle, but in my experience Vancouver has a huge problem with employment, because they have no industrial base whatsoever, drugs are rampant with heroine addiction being a major problem currently, and the immigrant communities seem to constantly be butting heads with the local government creating a tense social environment. (and just to clarify, I'm a dual Canadian/American citizen, with much of my family living in Vancouver, so my reason for bringing this up is purely to clarify, rather than to badmouth Canada, which is a great country that I love for a myriad of reasons)

Boston: Harvard, MIT, Boston U., Boston College, Tufts University, plus too many more. Beautiful city, too many colleges to name, most of them are pretty amazing schools as well.

New York City: Columbia University, New York University, etc... I wouldn't recommend going to school here because the cost of living in Manhattan is astronomical, but do visit, because it's a one of a kind city that captures people's hearts and imaginations. As cliche as it is to say that, I can't think of another way to describe it.

Washington, DC: Georgetown University, American University, etc... Amazing city, lots to see and do, and is very european in character, due to the absence of skyscrapers. (all buildings must be shorter than the US Capitol) Less dangerous than it used to be, but there aren't any points of interest in the less desirable neighborhoods, so you would have to be looking for trouble to find it.

Some other great cities are Portland (Oregon), San Francisco, Santa Barbara (CA), San Diego, Austin (TX), Denver, Chicago, Nashville, Louisville, Providence, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.


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American cities aren't walkable 'cause of their layout. Way too car-centric, straight streets, predominantly commercialised and business-centric - esp. speaking of their 'downtowns'.

NYC hardly is European. Smaller cities and towns/villages may rather have some European appeal to them, due to their oft more 'organic' structure.
Quebec is the most 'European' city in North America to me.
I completely disagree about the downtown comment. The opposite is true in that American downtowns are at a critical-mass of density, while the suburbs are car-centric. The skyscrapers are actually a direct result of the value of the land they sit on. More people want their offices, and recently, their homes located on that land, so the result is that skyscrapers are built to accommodate the demand for that real estate. Cities like Seattle, San Francisco, Boston, New York, Chicago, and Philadelphia are all geographically limited in their buildable area, so the result is the dramatic skylines each of these cities has. Look to Hong Kong for an even better example. Simple economics of supply and demand, or is that not taught in European schools?

It's simply untrue to say that American cities are not walkable. Outside of the downtowns, this is true, but I have yet to go to the city center of a major city without seeing hundreds of pedestrians walking everywhere. This is true for almost all of America's major cities, bar Las Vegas, which attracts tourists and has a terrible quality of life. Even Los Angeles' downtown is walkable, but the city is spread out into many walkable villages such as Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Westwood, Hollywood, Century City, etc... Manhattan is walkable, but due to the sheer amount of people, has spread (incredibly densely) to be so vast in size that walking from end to end would be foolish. It is true that most people commute to work via train, bus, or car, but that is not a qualification for the walkability of a place, because in all countries, urban centers draw the largest, most prestigious employers and thus their employees are spread throughout their respective metro areas.

However, you are right about Quebec, it was built by the French and much of the city is in its original form. However, don't think you can get by here with English, because although everyone speaks it perfectly fine, they resent the fact that most Canadians speak very minimal French, so they refuse to communicate in English.
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 07:42 AM   #31
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I disagree with some users. Most American cities are NOT walkable. The only city that I would say is walkable is NYC because I've lived there for 10 years and didn't own a car. However, now I live just outside DC and it can get very boring here. I mean it's a great "touristy" capital because of all the museums and stuff but otherwise, not too exciting for a capital city. Also, the subway stations can sometimes be too far away from each other. Philadelphia too I don't think it's a walkable city because it still has that reputation as a dangerous city (I lived there for 2 years just outside Philly in Conshohocken) and not a lot of people want to be in the downtown area of Philly after dark...maybe the only nice area is around UPENN area. But I would really recommend NYC if you have the money but would recommend Philadelphia if you would like to be in the "middle" area, meaning that Philly might be a good choice since it's the 3rd largest city in the US and DC is only 2 hrs away and NYC about 3 1/2hrs away so not too bad.
Um, Philadelphia is not the 3rd largest city in the US. It's #5, and on its way down as others creep closer to it. Phoenix may have already passed it up.
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 09:40 AM   #32
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1.NYC
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 10:07 AM   #33
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 10:19 AM   #34
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In order of priority:
1) NYC - duh?
2) Chicago - most under-rated global city in the world
3) SF - best city on the western US (sorry LA)
4) Las Vegas - everyone loves Vegas
5) Seattle - runner-up to SF on the west coast
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 10:39 AM   #35
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1. New York City
2. Washington DC
3. Orlando (or Miami)
4. San Fransico
5. Honolulu (or Fairbanks)
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 10:48 AM   #36
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 10:49 AM   #37
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I'll cover Northern California as it's my home

DO visit San Francisco: I've been there at least 1000 times, its never boring. There's always something to do. Rent a car and drive on the Golden Gate up to Sausalito, you can get a magnificent view of SF from there.

(I took this in January)

Places to check out: City Hall, Chinatown (walk thru it), Pier 39, BUBBA GUMP'S, Alcatraz, Ghiradelli Square, Union Square, who knows the Bushman might jump you

DON'T go to any of the beaches north of SF, they're all freezing cold. South of Santa Cruz is where the beaches are pretty good.

DO go to Sierra Tahoe during the winter. It's an amazing resort about 90 minutes east of Sacramento on Highway 50. The slopes there are sweet.

DON'T go to Sacramento. There's nothing to see here.

There's my 5 cents on San Fran, so the other 4 cities I'd recommend you see would be:

Los Angeles
Chicago
New York
San Diego (It's just plain awesome. Lots of beautiful girls help to sway one's decision to visit ^__^.)
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 09:01 PM   #38
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I think the 5 must visit US cities are


1. New York
2. DC
3. Chicago
4. Boston
5. San Francisco

all the same stuff everyone's mentioned. should also think about

Miami if you want the tropical/sub tropical experience, Anchorage if you want the arctic, Charleston/Savannah for most charming, Seattle or Portland if you want the NW experience, Detroit if you want gritty, and Baltimore if you're in DC, its so close and can be a fun city
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 10:50 PM   #39
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"Philadelphia too I don't think it's a walkable city because it still has that reputation as a dangerous city (I lived there for 2 years just outside Philly in Conshohocken) and not a lot of people want to be in the downtown area of Philly after dark...maybe the only nice area is around UPENN area. But I would really recommend NYC if you have the money but would recommend Philadelphia if you would like to be in the "middle" area, meaning that Philly might be a good choice since it's the 3rd largest city in the US and DC is only 2 hrs away and NYC about 3 1/2hrs away so not too bad."

False information. UPENN area is not the nicest part....Center City is. I lived in Center City for 11 years and it is safe and happening at night. Also I did not have a car for those years. Philadelphia is very walkable. for the record Philly is #6 in population. Phoenix surpassed Philly but I would not exactly call Phoenix a true dense walkable city. It is mostly sprawl.

"One of the unique factors about Philadelphia is that it is the most walkable city in the US and this factor is well used for the better part of it. Signs like “Walk! Philadelphia” well compliments the cities uniqueness and at the same time guide visitors toward shopping, dining, gallery perusing, cultural enjoyment, local must-sees and public transportation should it need to be taken. The city has two very walkable shopping districts as well as the walkable Benjamin Franklin Parkway, which is home to many museums, including the Franklin Institute and the Philadelphia Museum of Art that was made famous in the Rocky series of movies. "

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One of my dreams is to travel the US coast to coast alone by car and visiting 48 states. There are a few problems, I think it is very expensive and somewhat unsafe to travel the US alone.
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