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Old October 19th, 2009, 10:52 PM   #381
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Expense dosent matter with US Airways.....as they are running with heighest no of passenger and flights..its about risk to trust A380.....
Flights from NY to Chicago or Houstan of LA is not short flights almost 5-6 hours or more than that ...also if u consider fuel economy against passenger then A380 is heigher...
That is incorrect. NY to Chicago - 2 hr 15 min; Houston to LA - 3 hr 15 min

caelus is right, frequency is what matters as these routes are short, the A380 has no business running on them because people want to travel at different times since there is flexibility with how short the flight is. New York to LA is a little more than 5 hours and it is frequently used so instead of having a big A380 going twice a day they would rather have several A320s or B737s or bigger make the route.
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Old October 20th, 2009, 09:03 AM   #382
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Residential City infrastructure work 'to start soon'

The contract for infrastructure development within the Dubai World Central's (DWC) Residential City will be awarded soon, revealed a senior official.

Rashed Bugaraa, COO of DWC, said none of the planned developments within DWC have been put on hold and work will continue as scheduled.

Speaking to Emirates Business, he said: "The construction work is in progress and the project is shaping very well. Most of the work on the terminal building is already complete and the remaining will be finished by year end. There is no change in plans. Nothing has been put on hold. The milestones are as per schedule."

At the core of this airport city will be Al Maktoum International. The project also incorporates other developments such as Dubai Logistics City, Aviation City, Residential City, Commercial City and Golf City.

"The infrastructure phase of Residential City is being tendered and soon it will be awarded," said Bugaraa. Residential City is expected to house about 250,000 people and will include a variety of commercial components and community facilities such as schools, hospitals, healthcare centres, religious facilities, post offices, police stations, civil defence and public libraries. It will be served by a district cooling system through eight central utility complexes around the city.

It will also have a comprehensive and integrated road network and will be linked to the peripheral road that runs around Al Maktoum International. A light rail system will run along the city.

The first phase of Al Maktoum International Airport is expected to be complete by mid-2010. The passenger terminal, a 75,000 square metres single-level building, is designed to cater to five to seven million passengers per year and is set to begin operations by June next year.

Meanwhile, the number of runways has been reduced to five. "Instead of six runways as originally designed, it will now have five," said Bugaraa.

Work is complete on the first 4.5km A380-enabled Category-III runway. The $8.1 billion (Dh29.75bn) Al Maktoum International Airport, when completed, will be the world's biggest passenger and cargo hub.

Construction of the air traffic control (ATC) tower was completed earlier, making it the region's tallest free-standing ATC tower at 91 metres. The facility also includes a separate technical block of 6,000 sqm, which will house offices, operations, technical rooms, flight simulators and a meteor observation cabin.

Construction work on the first phase of Logistics City is already complete and some clients have started their operations from there, said Bugaraa.

"The first phase of Logistics City is complete. Be it the infrastructure, power, district cooling and drainage system, all work is complete. We are just waiting for our customers and investors to start building their facilities," he said.

Construction of the first of the 16 cargo terminals was also completed earlier this year. It will have a capacity to handle 600,000 tonnes of cargo annually. The ultimate goal is to create facilities to handle an annual cargo capacity of 12 million tonnes.

"We have several developers whose designs are being currently reviewed by our team and finalsed. Once approved, work on these developments should start soon," said Bugaraa.

Commenting on the impact of the economic slowdown, he said: "The project has been planned with a long-term perspective. It has been planned to take care of the needs of the sector until 2050."

With regard to falling prices and easy availability of building materials, Bugaraa said: "We took measures to take advantage of the falling construction cost. Several contracts were renegotiated in an effort to update the value of construction given the current scenario."

According to Bugaraa the outlook for the future is very positive.

"Take the example of cargo. It has been increasing over the past few months and is expected to increase during the coming months and years," he said.

http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/...f5d0412cf.aspx
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Old October 21st, 2009, 10:19 AM   #383
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Dubai International records largest traffic increase in 23 months

Dubai: Dubai International recorded an increase of 19.5 per cent in passenger traffic in September.

The figure represents the highest monthly growth rate since October 2007 when passenger numbers jumped 25.9 per cent.

It is also the fourth consecutive month of double-digit passenger traffic growth.

The airport handled a total of 3,190,408 passengers in September 2009 compared to 2,699,806 passengers during the corresponding period last year, raising the year to date passenger throughput to 30,068,739 passengers - up 7.9 per cent over 27,852,332 in 2008.

With an average monthly throughput of 3.2 million passengers so far this year, and expectations of a sustained growth in traffic during the fourth quarter, Dubai International says it is on track to break the 40 million passenger mark projected for 2009.

Cargo growth remained stable in September with a modest increase of 2.75 per cent. Dubai Airports Cargo handled 168,334 tonnes of freight in September 2009 compared to 163,836 tonnes during the same period last year.

Year-to-date cargo volumes total 1,366,880 tonnes compared to 1,361,358 tonnes in 2008, a marginal increase of 0.4 per cent.

Paul Griffiths, Dubai Airports CEO, said that Dubai International remains the only airport among the top ten airports worldwide in terms of international passenger to show positive growth in every quarter this year.

“We’re seeing strong growth across all regions,” said Griffiths. “We’ve seen a 35% increase in passengers travelling to and from Asia, a 21% rise in Western Europe and a 20% upsurge in our largest market, the Indian subcontinent. While many airports worldwide continue to see traffic shrink, in Dubai business is good.”

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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:59 PM   #384
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Perhaps it's all those western expats, Indian slaves, and Filipino maids who are fleeing while they still can.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 10:35 PM   #385
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dubai is going down,everyone is pulling out the money specially from real estate and i think this time the increse in pessengers at dubai airport is due to people leaving DUBAI.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 11:01 PM   #386
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its already lost me as a customer,
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 09:41 AM   #387
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Dubai , with its population peaking at around 1.596 million. It is expected to surge by about 7.8 per cent to 1.722 million at the end of 2009, the highest growth rate in the UAE.

http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/...de9d6433f.aspx

This Reuters report also suggests that Dubai's population is growing as there is a lot of traffic on the road again.

http://blogs.reuters.com/macroscope/...n-dubai-roads/

So there may be a few bad companies in Dubai but that doesn't mean its a bad city otherwise New York should also be a bad city because it created the WFC.

But Dubai's passenger traffic has been increasing constantly since it's boom so it's definitely not because of expats or people fleeing. It's because of its strategic location and it being a famous holiday destination.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 06:21 PM   #388
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Dubai , with its population peaking at around 1.596 million. It is expected to surge by about 7.8 per cent to 1.722 million at the end of 2009, the highest growth rate in the UAE.

http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/...de9d6433f.aspx

This Reuters report also suggests that Dubai's population is growing as there is a lot of traffic on the road again.

http://blogs.reuters.com/macroscope/...n-dubai-roads/

So there may be a few bad companies in Dubai but that doesn't mean its a bad city otherwise New York should also be a bad city because it created the WFC.

But Dubai's passenger traffic has been increasing constantly since it's boom so it's definitely not because of expats or people fleeing. It's because of its strategic location and it being a famous holiday destination.
and because of Abu dhabi money!!
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 10:01 PM   #389
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and because of Abu dhabi money!!
I highly doubt the city of Dubai entirely relies on money coming from the city of Abu Dhabi.
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^ I'm sure the outflow of foreign investment will only last for a short period of time, geographically Dubai is situated at a perfect location, right in the middle between Europe, Africa, Middle east & Asia, you can't find a better place to develop a hub than Dubai.
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I highly doubt the city of Dubai entirely relies on money coming from the city of Abu Dhabi.
They don't, hence the 80 Billion USD debt!!
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Before the economic crisis Dubai was the best city with developing in the UAE and Dubai is in the UAE ,a country which includes the city of Abu Dhabi and Dubai and money is obviously going to come from the capital of a country in hard times because they take decisions just like Washington takes decisions when it comes to money.

BTW. What does money from Abu Dhabi have to do with Dubai's airport ?....... and America has more debt than Dubai or for that matter the UAE.
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You answered your question there itself (in the first part).... the answer is MONEY...Abu Dhabi money...!! last I heard, Airports don't grow on trees, one needs money and lots of it to make airports!!

America has the greatest debt in the world...but they have the military power to ensure that no one pesters them about that (though no one can say how long that is going to stay like that)!!
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You answered your question there itself (in the first part).... the answer is MONEY...Abu Dhabi money...!! last I heard, Airports don't grow on trees, one needs money and lots of it to make airports!!
Indeed it does cost money to built airports but in turn, airports will make money for the national economy. This is defiantly the case in Dubai, the popularity of Dubai as a tourist destination will continue to grow at the airport will grow due to this along side it being a very popular and useful hub with Emirates Airlines.
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You answered your question there itself (in the first part).... the answer is MONEY...Abu Dhabi money...!! last I heard, Airports don't grow on trees, one needs money and lots of it to make airports!!

America has the greatest debt in the world...but they have the military power to ensure that no one pesters them about that (though no one can say how long that is going to stay like that)!!
Dubai didnt grow on Abu Dhabi money?! It grew independeltly of Abu Dhabi.
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Before the economic crisis Dubai was the best city with developing in the UAE and Dubai is in the UAE ,a country which includes the city of Abu Dhabi and Dubai and money is obviously going to come from the capital of a country in hard times because they take decisions just like Washington takes decisions when it comes to money.

BTW. What does money from Abu Dhabi have to do with Dubai's airport ?....... and America has more debt than Dubai or for that matter the UAE.
Actually, Washington is often forgotten when it comes to funding for lots of things. Getting infrastructure built there is almost MORE complicated. Yes there is a lot of money for jobs because that is where the government is and with that comes much investment, but if the government said hey we have a little money to build infrastructure like an airport, they are not going to say, well lets put it in Washington because it's the capital.
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they are not going to say, well lets put it in Washington because it's the capital.
Exactly! Too often people seem to think because somewhere is a capital, its automatically an important city. There are countless countries around the world where the most important city is not the capital.
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killerk: You answered your question there itself (in the first part).... the answer is MONEY...Abu Dhabi money...!! last I heard, Airports don't grow on trees, one needs money and lots of it to make airports!!

America has the greatest debt in the world...but they have the military power to ensure that no one pesters them about that (though no one can say how long that is going to stay like that)!!
But Dubai started with their airport when they still had a lot more money from oil then they have today and the Airport didn't get any money from Abu Dhabi, it grew because of all the airlines flying to and from it and that is why it is expanding because it makes money from customers. It doesn't get money from Abu Dhabi it gets money to expand from the Dubai Government. Dubai basically just needs some support from Abu Dhabi in hard times like all cities do from their countries capital city. BTW the Airport doesn't have any major debt like Nakheel and Dubai World which is the main companies who got help from Abu Dhabi.

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dl3000:Actually, Washington is often forgotten when it comes to funding for lots of things. Getting infrastructure built there is almost MORE complicated. Yes there is a lot of money for jobs because that is where the government is and with that comes much investment, but if the government said hey we have a little money to build infrastructure like an airport, they are not going to say, well lets put it in Washington because it's the capital.
I do agree with you but what i am trying to say is that Washington calculates a Budget for all States in America and from this they get their share of money to build infrastructure which is not the case in Dubai where most things is done with money from Dubai's ruler which includes the Dubai Government and investors and Dubai doesn't get a lot of money from Abu Dhabi and they didn't get anything from Abu Dhabi for it's airport.

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Halawala: Dubai didn't grow on Abu Dhabi money?! It grew independently of Abu Dhabi.
This is what I am trying to say. Totally agree Halawala.
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and because of Abu dhabi money!!
I suggest it would be wise to make such retarded comments after reading up on the socio-economic history on the formation of the UAE.The fundamental premise on which the trucial states (pre-UAE) were brought together under the UAE umbrella was when Sheikh Zayed (the father of the UAE) promised every state a share in the national oil wealth.This meant disembursement of oil wealth into building infrastructure,education,hospitals,airports...etc to all the states depending on the size of their economies and matters that needed urgent attention.It is a fallacy to think that only Abu dhabi contributes to the UAEs' piggy bank.Dubai however,having realized that it was not endowed with a black ocean under its carpet,set about pragmatically to re-gear its economy to that of commerce and trade which it has been doing so until now successfully.So,there is no Abu Dhabi,Dubai or Sharjah money,the UAE functions as a whole country and not piecemeal like how you'd like to think.Every Emirate is a piston without which the engine of the country can't function properly.So next time take your divisive and uneducated comments elsewhere.

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I suggest it would be wise to make such retarded comments after reading up on the socio-economic history on the formation of the UAE.The fundamental premise on which the trucial states (pre-UAE) were brought together under the UAE umbrella was when Sheikh Zayed (the father of the UAE) promised every state a share in the national oil wealth.This meant disembursement of oil wealth into building infrastructure,education,hospitals,airports...etc to all the states depending on the size of their economies and matters that needed urgent attention.It is a fallacy to think that only Abu dhabi contributes to the UAEs' piggy bank.Dubai however,having realized that it was not endowed with a black ocean under its carpet,set about pragmatically to re-gear its economy to that of commerce and trade which it has been doing so until now successfully.So,there is no Abu Dhabi,Dubai or Sharjah money,the UAE functions as a whole country and not piecemeal like how you'd like to think.Every Emirate is a piston without which the engine of the country can't function properly.So next time take your divisive and uneducated comments elsewhere.

Hellllo!! Dubai money is not Abu Dhabi money! True, there is a form of federal spending, but Dubai is considered a wealthy emirate and contributes 10 or 20 % of the Federal Budjet. The poorer emirates get more federal spending.

Dubai has built itself by itself--not by Abu Dhabi's money! Dubai grew up independently of Abu Dhabi; its as if these two cities were part of two different countries.

You are just plain wrong. Period.
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