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Old June 20th, 2008, 08:59 PM   #81
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i reckon it would look cool without the housing round the edge, and for it just to be a shining glass chimney which gleams in the sunlight and glows a subtle colour spectrum at night through atmospheric lighting.

you might even be able to see st pauls through it
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Old June 20th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #82
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that he wasn't against tall buildings as long as they serve a purpose
Yeah because we tend to build tall buildings today without them having a purpose. The guy is an idiot.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #83
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Could anyone show us how tall it would look on the skyline?
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...489244&page=14
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Old June 20th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #84
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I believe there is a historic World Heritaqe city in the Gulf with high mud-built structures of 10 floors plus which work on this chimney principle to cool the interiors
my ex girlfriend's family came from, and lived in bahrain. they owned, amongst other things, the traditional family house. ijt was a large complex of buildings that included a cooling tower. it was a four story mud brick structure open to the elements inside and attached at the bottom to the main house. i will dig out some photos and post them
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Old June 20th, 2008, 09:53 PM   #85
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what a shame the last proposals for this site never got off the ground, the almost comic book sci-fi renderings were breathtaking - it was the most exciting project I had seen for London - and not a skyscraper in site...whilst I like the vision and the guts of going for something of such a huge scale I can't believe this is a serious proposal - (and this is my opinion only) I think the 300m glass chimney dosnt particularly look much good - it looks odd on WJ's skyline, its scale is odd and not a patch on the shard in terms of refined design, its like something that juts out of an industrial planet in the year 2390.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 10:16 PM   #86
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If the chimney tower was thinner and more slender then it would probably fit quite well wit the skyline, however i think its design is crucial to the whole natural ventilation thing is it not?

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Old June 20th, 2008, 10:17 PM   #87
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its like something that juts out of an industrial planet in the year 2390.
That happens to be exactly why i love this; it is, i think, the future of all major cities. For them to be able to generate their own electricty where it is needed, cool themselves and provide high density living and working environments which includes lush green public gardens and open space. Imagine this next to marks barfield's Skyhouse and one of those multi-story city farms. That's the future.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 10:21 PM   #88
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towers like the Shard and the Pinnacle seem to fit into London - the church spires inspiration thing and all - but this seems alien and to be honest (again my opinion) just not very good.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 10:34 PM   #89
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Agreed, as I just said on the world forum thread.. you might as well cast a 300m tall bollard and it'd look better
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Old June 20th, 2008, 10:58 PM   #90
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How ironic will it be if this gets a smooth ride through planning permission and faces no oppression from any group.

We will just have to laugh!
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Old June 20th, 2008, 11:02 PM   #91
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Woah, that is way cool - but has absolutely no chance of getting built!

The floors of the tower would need more structural support underneath anyhow - ruining any chance of that transparent underside!
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Old June 20th, 2008, 11:39 PM   #92
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towers like the Shard and the Pinnacle seem to fit into London - the church spires inspiration thing and all - but this seems alien and to be honest (again my opinion) just not very good.
yeah in the central traditional core... this is battersea we are talking about. You are the first one to enjoy the North American flavour of Canary Wharf... open your mind a bit!
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Old June 20th, 2008, 11:56 PM   #93
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I cant believe people like Rowan Moore get paid to sprew out their dulled senses all over the population.

First he goes through all the innovative pollution and energy saving parts of the scheme while skipping over the fact that the much loved Power Station will be saved and then has the audacity to push all that aside with his political prejudice and then condescendly mentions that people wont want to the live there as a community.

The man should be kicked out of London for good.

"The Battersea tower seems destined for those books on unbuilt London that include a straightened Thames, a tower on top of Selfridges, and plans for inhabited bridges. In saying this I may be putting myself in the category of those who laughed when Christopher Columbus told them that the world was round. But I don't think so"
Yea I agree he's living in the past but then again so is the standard so they are probably good bed fellows. Its the typical opinion of someone who doesnt want change or new architecture in london that's higher than 5 stories that doesn't rock the boat too much. When I first saw the proposals I was shocked but now looking at the plans and renders I'm very excited by the idea's which isn't predominately about shopping and conference centres but building a distinct and large residential area with a decent transport interchange. I think the idea of having no roof on the power station is a really novel and innovative solution which actually when you think about it makes alot of sense.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/..._gallery.shtml there's another image on the bbc website plus an interview.

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Old June 21st, 2008, 12:14 AM   #94
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yeah in the central traditional core... this is battersea we are talking about. You are the first one to enjoy the North American flavour of Canary Wharf... open your mind a bit!

sorry for having an opinion you dont agree with Potto - I'll be more careful in future - sorry my mistake and yes I will try to 'open my mind a bit' - thanks for pointing out my shortcomings - thank goodness there are people like you on the forum to put people like me right.

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Old June 21st, 2008, 12:53 AM   #95
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I think some people are being a bit harsh on Rowan Moore. He's not against tall buildings at all, nor is he against modern architecture, he is positively in favour of both, despite the fact he writes for the Standard. He happens to believe that we should build high in two or three locations and not everywhere, which is not an unreasonable position even if like me you don't agree with it.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:04 AM   #96
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The problem is people will read this stuff and think he's right. There is never anyone coming out in a counter argument in the standard, it's always ' shock' ' horror' as apposed to rational thinking. I think the way we knew he would say this just show's how predictable he is.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:08 AM   #97
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I like this. I agree it doesn't look too good on Will's skyline, but I'm sure the glass upper third of it will make it feel lighter.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:16 AM   #98
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The problem is people will read this stuff and think he's right. There is never anyone coming out in a counter argument in the standard, it's always ' shock' ' horror' as apposed to rational thinking. I think the way we knew he would say this just show's how predictable he is.
This is the archetypal Daily Wail/LES stuff which I hate. Shock horror outrage. I think the people who read this stuff must be in some way masochistic to like to make themselves get so angry all the time.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:35 AM   #99
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It's the London way...well according to the standard.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 11:47 AM   #100
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Another rendering



Also a news report with plenty of graphics of the scheme ( look out for St Georges Wharf tower in there as well)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7465356.stm
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