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Old July 8th, 2008, 09:25 PM   #41
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Quebec City looks like such a beautiful place, I want to visit someday. In addition to being the cradle of francophone American civilization it is also the site of one of the most important events in North American history - the Battle of the Plains of Abraham which was a turning point not just for Quebec or Canada but for the entire continent. Without the defeat of the French at this battle Britain's American colonies would have never felt secure enough to rebel, at least not for another 50 years. If Quebec had still been French and the 13 colonies still British at the time of the French Revolution it would have changed the whole dynamics of history.

As far as the previous discussion, Virginia was settled in 1607 but didn't leave any cities from that era because of it's rural settlement pattern. Quebec, Virginia, New Netherlands and New England were the four main European colonies north of Spanish America in the era and all played a role in the settlement of the continent.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 03:18 AM   #42
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very nice, looks like europe in north america, id like to visit
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Old July 9th, 2008, 04:27 AM   #43
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Quebec, Virginia, New Netherlands and New England were the four main European colonies north of Spanish America in the era and all played a role in the settlement of the continent.
What about Nova Scotia and New Brunswick?
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Old July 9th, 2008, 05:25 PM   #44
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That's right ! but how come there are not much historical visible like a little town or some iconic architecture that would catch people attention right away when we talk a bout them , I would love to see that too !
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Old July 10th, 2008, 08:45 AM   #45
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What about Nova Scotia and New Brunswick?
It is a question of magnitude.

These places were settled early but they were one of the main theaters of conflict in the several wars that France and Britain fought in North America. People don't risk their lives traveling across the ocean so they can settle in a potential war zone. The region was originally the French colony of Acadia, in 1713 mainland Acadia fell but the French kept Cape Breton Island and the fortress of Louisbourg. This created an unsettled situation where colonists from neither country wanted to settle there. The fact that Quebec and Britain's colonies to the south both had more fertile land was also a disincentive to settlement. Halifax was the first British colony in North America to be settled by British government inititive, it was the only way they could get people to live there.

The end result of this was that the population was tiny.

According to Francis Parkman's "Montcalm and Wolfe, the French and Indian War" the French Acadian population was between 12,000 and 14,000 people in 1748 (based on Catholic Dioceses records), he puts the population of Halifax at 4,000 in 1752. By comparison the colonies that were to become the US had a population of around 1.5 million in 1750. In 1755 the British ethnically cleansed the Acadians so the population decreased significantly. It wasn't until 30,000 United Empire Loyalists showed up after the revolution that these places became heavily populated settled country. Elsewhere wilderness had been turned into countryside a century or more earlier.

In short Acadia, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick were more significant than New Sweden or St Augustine but a step behind the other early colonies like Quebec, Virginia and New England.

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