BRASILIA - Estádio Nacional Mané Garrincha (72,888) - 2014 FIFA WC - Page 2

Kuvvaci · August 14th, 2008, 01:58 PM

wonderful

Jim856796 · January 7th, 2009, 01:47 PM

This is how the Mane Garrincha Stadium currently looks like:

Capital78 · January 7th, 2009, 08:58 PM

Does a city Brasilia really needs such a big stadium. Okey, I know it's capital of Brasil but this city doesn't have any football tradition and no important clubs. Half smaller stadium would be just enough. People should also think what to do with the stadium in the future.

leomarques · January 7th, 2009, 11:22 PM

This is what brazilians in general are arguing. If it is really worthwhile to build a stadium which will rarely be sold out.
But there's a political reason to build a large stadium in the country capital and this stadium host the opening cerimony

***www.sercan.de*** · January 8th, 2009, 12:21 PM

Can't they built a stadium with temporary stands?

1st tier concrete and cap. is 40,000
2nd tier is steel and cap. is 30,000

So WC cap. would be 70,000 and legacy 40,000

TEBC · January 16th, 2009, 05:33 PM

this stadium is not only for sports.. they are thinking in the fact that they will have a huge arena for international shows and stuff

GMF · January 18th, 2009, 06:17 AM

This project uses about 20% of the current structure of the Stadium. It could have some changes according to suggestions of the groups that will manage the Arena. Probably, it will be Amsterdam Arena Advisory (AAA), Sacyr Vallehermoso (SyV), or International Stadia Group (ISG).

It isn´t the best project, but I think that is the most viable one Brasília can offer.

GMF · January 18th, 2009, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.sercan.de

How many suites will it have?

I think it´s about 410, but i´m not sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim856796

This is how the Mane Garrincha Stadium currently looks like:

This photo is from 1998. But it haven´t changed to much since then. It´s only a little more conservated.

GMF · January 18th, 2009, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim856796

What I mean by all that is if the Garrincha stadium gets refurbished as a rectangular stadium, Brasilia will never host the Pan American Games in the 2030s. I also can't redevelop the serejao stadium because that's probably a rectangular stadium, too. I would build some new oval stadium close to this one, but there's not enough space in the sports complex for it. The Mane Garrincha stadium has a swimming pool and two gymnasiums near it.

If Brasília hosts the Pan American Games, an Olympic Stadium should be built near the Paranoa´s Lake, at the Brasília University. It´s a nice place.

... But I don't believe that this will happen...

And thanks for your participation in Brasília´s World Cup threads.

IcyUrmel · January 18th, 2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by masterpaul

This company should be banned from designibg stadiums, they just recycle designs and do minimal changes to them.

Yes - this roof seems to be quite a copy of the Hamburg WC Stadium. As you call it, a recycling with minimal changes.
But no - why banning the architects for this? It is a simple, a cheap and functional desing, and we've seen variations of this quite often in the last years.

Technically, all these hanging roofs are just copies - of the Colosseum in Rome. Since the developement of new "skin" Materials in the early Ninties, this construction idea has become fashinate again, with an inflation of variations over the last decade.
Now, we're coming to a point when almost every variation has already been "invented" somewhere on this planet - at least every cost efficient variation. And the only choice you really have is whether you want to copy this one here, or maybe that one over there.
And you can choose either to create an obvious copy - or to pay some percent extra and include some gimmicks. And thus hide the fact that you just build a copy.

***www.sercan.de*** · January 18th, 2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFE.G

I think it´s about 410, but i´m not sure.

This photo is from 1998. But it haven´t changed to much since then. It´s only a little more conservated.

410 in just 1 ring?
must be very small suites

GMF · January 18th, 2009, 02:39 PM

It is only a projection.
I just know there is a total of 4.100 seats in the suites.

If the capacity is 10 people in one, it´s about 410. If it´s 20 people, it´s about 205...
And i don´t know if this proposal has changed...
These renders were presented in july, and the final project this week.

Jim856796 · May 25th, 2009, 07:18 AM

Looked at the 2014 FIFA World Cup thread and they apparently redesigned the stadium so it could have a different roof and have an oval groundprint. The arena's interior is still the same, although it has two floors of luxury boxes instead of one. Should have redesigned the stands into an oval as well.

This new design would have required the total demolition or a reconstruction (similar to Soccer City or the Kiev Olympisky Stadium) of the existing Mane Garrincha Stadium.

bernardo_j · May 26th, 2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bezzi

Brasilia release a new update of their stadium project. This new project is beautiful and connect with the city's architecture. Brasilia are biding for the opening match and i think they are serious:

The stadium will change their name from "Mané Garrincha" to "Brasília National Stadium".

More stadiums updates coming soon

VIDEO:

More 1 pic...

Carrerra · May 26th, 2009, 04:20 PM

Ugly but charming. HMMMMM. It gives me very delicate feelings.

Wey · May 27th, 2009, 01:15 AM

If they cover the circumference with a transparent glass wall, it'll be PERFECT! Otherwise, it will end up just as another dirty concrete monument in Brasília...

Ganis · May 29th, 2009, 04:59 PM

not a fan. That design style went out of style along time ago.

skaP187 · May 29th, 2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganis

not a fan. That design style went out of style along time ago.

Indeed from the inside it reminds me somehow of Montrealolumpic stadium, wasn´t that ´76 or something?

NMAISTER007 · June 18th, 2009, 06:34 PM

Will this stadium host the final of the world cup in 2014? cause i heard that brazil are hosting the 2014 world cup.

ChilenoFutbol · June 18th, 2009, 11:59 PM

probably the maracana will host the final. (its in rio)

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GMF Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brasília/DF Posts: 1,383 Likes (Received): 16	It is only a projection. I just know there is a total of 4.100 seats in the suites. If the capacity is 10 people in one, it´s about 410. If it´s 20 people, it´s about 205... And i don´t know if this proposal has changed... These renders were presented in july, and the final project this week.

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Jim856796 The Q&A Guy Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Citizen of the World Posts: 6,774 Likes (Received): 12	Looked at the 2014 FIFA World Cup thread and they apparently redesigned the stadium so it could have a different roof and have an oval groundprint. The arena's interior is still the same, although it has two floors of luxury boxes instead of one. Should have redesigned the stands into an oval as well. This new design would have required the total demolition or a reconstruction (similar to Soccer City or the Kiev Olympisky Stadium) of the existing Mane Garrincha Stadium. __________________ I honestly think all development projects must be dashing, sustainable, and futureproof. You support the good projects... and oppose the bad.

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