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Old September 11th, 2011, 02:21 PM   #2001
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About line 22:
-Anybody know what kind of rolling stock they will be using on this line?
-Any idea on what the fare between Shanghai South and Jinshan will be?
-How will interchanges between this line and line 1 be handled at Shanghai South and Xinzhuang?
There doesn't seem to be any concrete answers on Metrofans, so it's anyone's guess.
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Old September 27th, 2011, 04:06 PM   #2002
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Shanghai subway trains collide, 200 injured

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(Reuters) - Two subway trains collided in central Shanghai on Tuesday injuring more than 200 passengers, though none critically, prompting public anger just two months after a deadly crash between two high-speed trains.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...78Q0ZP20110927

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Old September 28th, 2011, 02:49 AM   #2003
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Old September 28th, 2011, 07:40 AM   #2004
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The investigation to this accident should be easy for the government to undertake, at least this time the trains in question are already under the ground.
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Old September 28th, 2011, 04:56 PM   #2005
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Casualty count is now up to 270 of which 20 are in critical condition, no fatalities reported yet. The authorities originally claimed there were no critical injuries.
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Old September 28th, 2011, 05:39 PM   #2006
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262 hurt, some seriously, when 2 trains collide on Metro Line 10

By Liang Yiwen | 2011-9-27


Passengers escape from the cabin of Shanghai Metro Line No. 10 train when it was rear-ended by another Metro train at around 2:50pm today between Laoximen Station and Yuyuan Garden Station. A total of 262 passengers were reportedly injured.


A total of 262 passengers were reportedly injured when two Metro trains collided in downtown Shanghai this afternoon.

The rear-end collision happened around 2:50pm on Metro Line 10 between Laoximen Station and Yuyuan Garden Station.

At least 20 people were seriously wounded when they were thrown to the ground with the impact of the collision. They were sent to five nearby hospitals for fractures and contusions.

Police rushed the injured to hospitals and evacuated other passengers from the tunnel. No death was reported so far. Passengers with light injuries walked out of the station and about 100 of them left their contact numbers to the Metro station.

Operation between the Hongqiao Road Station and Tiantong Road Station was suspended immediately and has not been restored yet. Transfer from Metro Line 10 to other lines has also halted.

Prior to the accident, Metro Line 10 trains were ordered to run at low speeds between Jiao Tong University Station and Nanjing Road E Station due to a signal breakdown.

The train in the front had stopped for a while and was continuing its journey when it was hit from behind. The two trains were traveling at about 10 kilometer per hour when the accident happened.
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Old September 28th, 2011, 05:50 PM   #2007
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BREAKING: METRO LINE NO.10 TO RESUME SERVICE AT 8 PM.

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REAKING: METRO LINE NO.10 TO RESUME SERVICE AT 8 PM.
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Old September 28th, 2011, 05:55 PM   #2008
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BREAKING: METRO OPERATOR SAYS LINE NO. 10 COLLISSION CAUSED BY HUMAN ERROR.

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BREAKING: METRO OPERATOR SAYS LINE NO. 10 COLLISSION CAUSED BY HUMAN ERROR.
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Old September 29th, 2011, 10:41 AM   #2009
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I just have some curiosity questions:
Why do they use overhead lines when it's clear that 3rd rail is easier to build and uses less energy and also better for tunnels?
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Old September 29th, 2011, 02:17 PM   #2010
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I just have some curiosity questions:
Why do they use overhead lines when it's clear that 3rd rail is easier to build and uses less energy and also better for tunnels?
Overhead is safer for track workers. Third rail is restricted to 750 or 800V current, and those low voltages require more substations along the line. In addition, low voltages have more losses of power, and thus are actually less energy efficient than higher voltages.
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Human error blamed for Metro crash

By Zha Minjie | 2011-9-29

HUMAN error was to blame for the Metro train collision on Tuesday in which more than 280 people were injured, the Shanghai Metro operator said yesterday.

Shanghai Shentong Metro Group said it had given technical data and records to a investigation task force led by the city's work safety bureau for further checks.

"Metro staff on Line 10 used a manual dispatch mode after the signaling system was affected by a loss of power," Shentong said on its website. "However, the staff on duty failed to strictly comply with management regulations, which caused the accident."

The Metro operator said a signal glitch was spotted about 40 minutes ahead of the crash. Before the accident happened, communication between Metro stations relied on telephones to control the trains.

Luo Yanyun, a professor at Tongji University's Urban Mass Transit Railway Research Institute, said yesterday: "Using the telephones for dispatch is usually the last choice the Metro operator would make once the signals are cut."

Luo said the method depended on human control and thus was "of relative poor safety. It will affect normal operation but the accident should have been avoided."

Luo added: "I have been calling for the government to set up a whole safety analysis and evaluation system on the subways."

Staff controlling the trains after a signal failure are supposed to give following trains a signal to carry on only after the front train leaves the section between two stations.

Line 10's signal provider, Casco, a joint venture of the China Railway Signal and Communication Corp and France's Alstom SA, came under fire after the accident as a series of glitches had previously been reported on the line.

The company was held responsible for a two-train crash on Line 1 in December 2009.

Luo said the lack of good management and the poor abilities of Metro staff were concerns with the city boasting it would have the world's longest Metro track, more than 500 kilometers, by next year.

"The focus still lies on construction now," said Luo. "The operation management lags behind."

Luo said he began working with the city government on upgrading Metro safety system soon after the 2009 crash but said there had been "little progress so far."

Problems from signal glitches to water leaks at many new Metro stations have frequently hit the headlines as more lines come into service.

The city's top advisory body, the Shanghai People's Political Consultative Conference, said previously that not enough professionals were being trained to ensure the safe operation of the Metro system.

It also said the speed of construction had not left enough time for testing.

The city's political advisers said another 30,000 technical and management professionals, nearly twice current levels, would be needed by 2013.

Shentong Metro Group has recruited graduates in recent years, but the company said it was still concerned about a lack of experience in key positions. It said it would be strengthening staff training and holding exams to ensure the training is effective.
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Old September 29th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #2012
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My! might they have also misdialed the telephone number(s)?
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 02:30 PM   #2013
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Anyone know when this Line 22 will open?

Edit: Cause I read an article saying it would open this year October 1st, but then I read a bunch of other sources saying it's not close to finished yet.

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Old October 8th, 2011, 12:07 PM   #2014
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this thread is really useful
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Old October 11th, 2011, 07:39 AM   #2015
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I agree
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Old October 12th, 2011, 02:46 AM   #2016
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me too

anyone have any idea when line 22 is supposed to open? I know it's supposed to be by the end of this year.

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Old November 3rd, 2011, 06:15 PM   #2017
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10,000 people a day dodge subway fares

BEIJING, Nov. 3 (Xinhuanet) --Nearly 10,000 passengers each day evade fares on Shanghai's 11 Metro lines, according to the subway operator.

The ratio of fare dodgers averages 0.18 percent of more than 5.5 million daily Metro passengers, Shanghai Shentong Metro Group said.

The percentages are higher at certain stations, such as People's Square.

Some dodgers jump over or duck under turnstiles. Others use elderly-only transport cards or fake certificates.

"It seems we have many (champion hurdler) Liu Xiangs at Metro stations," said Lan Tian, a Metro official. "Some are not ashamed of what they do, but rather seem proud and become frequent violators."

A staff member at People's Square Station yesterday said she spots more than 30 evaders every day, most of them from out of town.

"Some simply leave as though nothing has happened," she said. Those caught by Metro workers are usually asked to buy a ticket. "That's it," she said.

The subway operator loses more than 11 million yuan (US$1.73 million) a year because of fare dodgers.

One evader, who declined to be named, said: "The fares are too high."

The cheapest Metro ticket is 3 yuan.

Fare evaders face a maximum fine of 50 yuan, five times the highest Metro fare, according to regulations.

However, Metro officials said in most cases violators are asked to pay the due fare or receive only a verbal warning.

Metro officials said they were considering technical prevention, such as raising the height of turnstiles and lowering gate levels.

(Source: eastday.com)
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Old November 4th, 2011, 12:50 AM   #2018
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"It seems we have many (champion hurdler) Liu Xiangs at Metro stations," said Lan Tian, a Metro official. "Some are not ashamed of what they do, but rather seem proud and become frequent violators."

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This in not very uncommon on other systems?

I saw some fare dodgers when I was in Shanghai, more than in other cities besides Paris.
I would guess that a low risk of being caught and the low fine is not helping.
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