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Old January 17th, 2012, 12:13 PM   #2101
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By reducing this along with frequency, Shanghai metro can easily increase its capacity without need to build new lines.
But new lines are still needed. Large areas at the edges of Shanghai are quite populous. Do not forget Suzhou either.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #2102
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I watched a documentary on the Hongqiao hub the other night - at the end they said that a Maglev station with 11 platforms is waiting to be opened (showed footage of it too) and will be after a new type of Maglev technology is developed. Does anyone have any more info on this?
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Old January 17th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #2103
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Hyperbole much? Yes, the frequency could be better, especially on Lines 1 and 2, but it's not 'awful' by any stretch of the imagination. I've ridden on most lines at rush hour, and the frequencies that are currently used on the lines with wide stock are pretty much capable of handling the load (with the exception of the aforementioned Lines 1 and 2). Lines 6 and 8 definitely need higher frequencies, though, due to their narrow stock.

As far as dwell times at stations, it happens rather infrequently that the train sits at a station for a while, but it's pretty rare in my experience. Honestly, I've never found the Shanghai Metro to be any worse in service than say, the London Underground, in terms of journey times and frequencies.
Lines 1 and 2 may be relatively old, but according to knowledgeable posters on metrofans.sh.cn, new Line 9 stock cannot be entered into service between the signalling cannot handle frequencies greater than every 3 minutes. Upgraded London Underground lines operate at 2-minute frequencies, and if this can be achieved on Shanghai Metro you are looking at a whopping 60% increase in capacity.

Dwell times definitely are higher in Shanghai. On LU lines doors open right after the train has stopped (sometimes just a millisecond before!), and no time is wasted after the doors are closed.

As a new system Shanghai Metro shouldn't be underperforming LU on any perameters.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 08:19 PM   #2104
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There had been some nasty accidents on the line 2 which is the line without the platform screen doors, involving passengers being caught between the moving train and the platform barriers. These accidents made Shanghai Metro go into an 'elf and safety overdrive that includes those ridiculous arm movements the drivers now have to do.

Frequencies are notoriously poor. It's partly due to lack of trains, but signalling isn't that good either - ~ 3 trains every 10 minutes on Lines 1 and 2 is about the maximum that can be achieved.
In many metro systems, signalling is designed in such a way that there is a scope of upgradation at a later stage. Has Shanghai metro tried this for older lines?
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Old January 17th, 2012, 09:08 PM   #2105
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Honqiao Railway station, Line 10.










































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Old January 17th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #2106
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The inside-car-map looks pretty cool!
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Old January 18th, 2012, 05:07 AM   #2107
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There's a line 22? not each city's subway system is different from each other
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Old January 18th, 2012, 06:41 PM   #2108
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Metro Line 4 repair to affects 9 stations


THE Hailun Road Station for Metro Line 4 will be closed during the Spring Festival due to uneven land subsidence.

As a result, train services will not be available at nine stations on the loop line during the holiday, said a Shanghai Shentong Metro Group official. Hailun Road Station will begin repair work on the night of January 22.

Metro Line 4 will run a C-shaped route and make only 16 stops from Yishan Road Station to Linping Road Station between January 23 and 28. Full operation will resume after the festival, said the operator.

But passengers can still go to the nine stations to take Metro Line 3 as the two lines share the same tracks along the nine stations, the official said, adding that operation should be smooth as passenger volume will drop sharply during the holiday.

The official advised people to take buses if they want to go to places near the Hailun Road Station. Metro Line 10 that also stops at Hailun Road Station will run as normal during the holiday.

source of information http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=492627
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Old January 21st, 2012, 08:30 AM   #2109
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Honqiao Airport terminal 2 station:


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/466501/


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/466503/

Honqiao Airport terminal 1 station:


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/466505/


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/466506/


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Shanghai Zoo station:


Фотографии в альбоме «Шанхай... (上海)» Night-City-Dream на Яндекс.Фотках



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All the stations here above are on line 10.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 10:14 AM   #2110
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3-day, unlimited Metro passes coming
Shanghai Daily
Feb 29, 2012

THREE-DAY passes for unlimited use on the subway will be available starting tomorrow, officials said yesterday.

The new 45 yuan (US$7.14) pass allows the holder to travel on all 11 Metro lines, said Shanghai Shentong Metro Group, the subway operator. The new passes will be sold at all 200-plus Metro stations.

Shentong said the passes would benefit "short-term visitors who are in Shanghai for business or leisure."

Currently, an 18 yuan one-day pass is available for visitors.

Metro passengers said they welcome the tickets, adding they'd like to see more diversified tickets that would be good for weekly or monthly use. But some complained that the price is too high.

Currently, subway passengers use either single trip tickets or the public transport card, which is also accepted for taxi, bus and ferry services but does not offer a discount. The city's Metro fares are on a sliding scale, with a ceiling of 10 yuan and a minimum of 3 yuan (except for Line 5).
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Old March 5th, 2012, 01:29 PM   #2111
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Fine Metro litterbugs, say readers in poll
Shanghai Daily
2012-3-5



HEFTY fines for litterbugs and a ban on eating in subway carriages are the best ways to tackle the growing litter problem on Metro trains, according to a Shanghai Daily survey.

Some 45 percent of more than 500 respondents in the online polls supported the idea of heavy fines for passengers who drop litter in subway trains.

And another 39 percent agreed with the proposition that eating should be banned on trains.

The Shanghai Metro operator reports that staff collect, on average, 100 kilograms of trash from trains every day - a figure that is rising.

The city did include a "no eating" proposal in its 2009 Metro regulation but this was never adopted due to difficulties with implementation.

However, the growing volume of trash has brought the issue to the fore once more.

According to the 2009 Metro regulation, eating and drinking is banned on trains and in stations. But it does not say how - or indeed if - commuters would be fined if caught.

As the regulation was never adopted effectively, snacking commuters are a familiar sight on trains - especially during morning rush hour.

"It's terrible when people eat breakfast next to you on the train," said Samuel Wen, a regular Metro commuter.

"The smell makes me feel uncomfortable and I'm always scared they might drop food or spill a drink on me, as the trains are far too crowded."

The Metro operator said there is no plan to implement a ban on eating on trains.

Meanwhile, although city laws state that litterbugs can be fined up to 200 yuan (US$32), very few have had to pay a penalty.

Local public sanitation authorities admitted they have fined virtually no one, saying it is a complicated process.

Audio or video evidence and formal fine bills are required, officials said.

But the growing quantity of litter has seen some commuters take their own initiative, uploading photographs of Metro litterbugs on to the Internet in the hope that public condemnation will shame them into changing their ways.

Other possible deterrents found little favour with survey respondents. Only 10 percent thought hiring more cleaners would improve the situation.

And only 6 percent called for extra surveillance cameras.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 02:34 PM   #2112
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More Metro art to reflect city
Shanghai Daily
Mar 6, 2012

METRO riders will find more wall paintings, carvings and sculptures in the city's ever-growing subway network as the Shanghai Metro authority says it will put more cultural elements into the underground transport system.

The art forms will echo traditional buildings and historical events in the city and districts, said Ying Minghong, board chairman with the Shanghai Shentong Metro Group.

For instance, the under-construction Longhua Temple Station will boast a huge wall painting of the old temple and the history it embodies.

The 420-kilometer network now has 57 paintings. Ying said the operator will also repair and renovate some paintings this year.

"The art form is still too simple along the Metro network," said Ying. "In the future, art exhibitions can also be introduced to the network."

The line linking to the under-construction Disneyland theme park is expected to feature well-known cartoon figures such as Mickey Mouse, said Ying. He said the Disney line project is still waiting approval.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 03:51 PM   #2113
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Is the problem that big of a deal?
I didn't experience a problem with litter at all when i visited back in July.
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3-day Metro pass set to make debut today
Shanghai Daily
Mar 8, 2012

THE city Metro operator said yesterday that a three-day pass that has been delayed due to technical problems will go on sale today.

Priced at 45 yuan (US$7), it will allow passengers unlimited use of the city's 11 Metro Lines for its duration, said the operator. It was due to be issued on March 1.
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Glitch stacks up Metro for 3 hours
Shanghai Daily
Mar 14, 2012

THE city's Metro service suffered another major glitch blamed on a signaling failure yesterday morning, delaying hundreds of thousands of rush hour commuters on Line 7 for about three hours before traffic completely resumed.

During repair efforts, traffic on Line 7 was largely restricted, with train intervals prolonged to more than 10 minutes and entrances to many stations temporarily shut down to control passenger numbers out of safety concerns.

The longest traffic glitch on Line 7 came at the worst possible time, just after 6:30am and lasting through the whole morning rush hour. Nearly 300,000 people travel daily on Line 7, which has more interchange stations than most lines.

The Metro management had transit buses and taxis dispatched to major stations, but that did little to stem the problem.

The Metro operator first issued a malfunction alert to the public at 6:38am, telling passengers to be prepared for delays of 10 minutes after a signal failure was detected. After 7am the estimated delay grew to about 15 minutes or longer.

Passengers took to the Internet to challenge Metro management's capabilities in judging and dealing with emergency situations, asking how a 15-minute estimated delay turned out to be three hours.

Some commuters fighting to avoid being late for work resorted to getting rides on illegal motorbikes hawked outside some Metro stations. Some were taken advantage of by the motorcyclists and had to pay exorbitant fares.

The Metro management explained the signaling failure at Qihua Road Station was "rather complicated" to repair and apologized to the public.

The city's ever-growing Metro daily ridership has recently hit 7 million.

Increasing traffic and complexity of the operational network amid ongoing expansion is pressuring the Metro management's capabilities in keeping subway services running safely and precisely.
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Just like London Underground then.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 12:58 AM   #2117
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The difference is that in London it happens every day and noone cares to write about that
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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:31 PM   #2118
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Yup, London really sucks in that matter!
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Old April 16th, 2012, 02:11 PM   #2119
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Long lines as Metro limits entry in morning

2012-04-06 15:09 Shanghai Daily Web Editor: Zang Kejia

Long passenger queues waited yesterday morning outside the stations of Metro lines 1, 6 and 8, where riders were restricted from entering during the morning rush, the first work day after the Qingming Festival.

They had to wait 10 to 20 minutes before they were allowed in, Metro officials said. The policy started yesterday to smooth operations at the stations, which have long been plagued by huge crowds vying to jam into trains, delaying their departures. 

Shanghai Shentong Metro Group, the subway operator, said the policy "is expected to be a long-term one."

The measures aim to slow passengers entering the stations during rush hours to allow those who are on the platforms to be carried away in time.

At least five busy stations, like Line 1's Xinzhuang and Line 8's Yangsi Road stops, are among the affected subway hubs. The limitations are in effect from 7:15am to 8:45am.
See http://www.ecns.cn/2012/04-06/12052.shtml for more of the story.

The use of type-C trains on line 8 is probably the biggest ****-up in Shanghai Metro's history. Express bus routes are in operation along sections of Lines 6 and 8, but most of the buses carry fresh air for the whole day - it almost looks as though they are designed to fail.
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Yeah underestimate ridership on Line 8 is a pretty big screw up, I mean a line that has 8 interchange stations and pass through People's Square, come on. I'd assume the tunnel platform size won't allow Type A trains?
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