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Old January 25th, 2006, 08:48 AM   #201
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China is undervalued because of the magic of the exchange rate. I believe a lot of the Chinese, particularly those who live in the large cities are many times wealthier than the Russians.
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Old January 25th, 2006, 06:43 PM   #202
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Ok lest go back to the subway topic.
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Old January 25th, 2006, 11:22 PM   #203
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Is there any logic in this system? It looks like a web but without structure, they could have made it somewhat more simple.
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Old January 26th, 2006, 02:32 AM   #204
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Shanghai's Metro System matches its world cosmopolitan reputation is a must.
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Old January 26th, 2006, 02:52 AM   #205
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What world cosmopolitan reputation? The metro is part of Shanghai's reputation. If it has problems (which it does, according to the forumers here), the city's reputation suffers.
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Old January 26th, 2006, 02:57 AM   #206
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^Do you think that NYC subway has its problems? See how many people use the metro as the commuting mathod.
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Old January 26th, 2006, 03:11 PM   #207
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this is a lie. China remains far behind Russia and likely with greater regional disparities than Russia. In total GDP, yes, but this means little as the country does house 20% of humanity. It will take at least another decade of break neck growth to allow China to surpass Russia in terms of per capita wealth

I am not trying to slight China, I am trying to provide a rational as to why Russia and the former Soviet Union had much more widespread metro systems: they were wealthier.
Per capita wealth doesn't mean anything. The only reason why China's is so low is because they have SO MANY people to split the GDP amongst. In reality a lot of people in China do not earn incomes because they are either nomads, autonomous region peoples, and minorities....

Anyways, China has the world's fourth-largest economy and not to smite Russia but in the cities, its people live way better lives. The Chinese infrastructure system is way more sophisticated than Russia's... Russia may have more cities with metros but that doesn't mean its richer. The only great metro system is Moscow's. In China, you have Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, etc.
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Old February 17th, 2006, 11:08 AM   #208
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Does anyone have a network map?
routes in operation:

system map of 2015:


system map of 2030:

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Old February 17th, 2006, 11:31 AM   #209
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Why does the current map have a lighter area "Nonuse"? Does it mean it's not built yet?
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Old February 17th, 2006, 12:28 PM   #210
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Why does the current map have a lighter area "Nonuse"? Does it mean it's not built yet?
yes its under construction
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Old February 17th, 2006, 12:30 PM   #211
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Why does the current map have a lighter area "Nonuse"? Does it mean it's not built yet?
it was built, but the tunnel beneath the huangpu river(which can be seen in the 2015 picture)colapsed during construction back in 2003, and that segment was flooded. so currently, they r building new tunnel segments to replace the old ones, due to open in 2007
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Old March 4th, 2006, 06:03 AM   #212
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Shanghai Plans 300km Bus-Only Lanes

More bus-only lanes aimed to double speed, efficiency
3 March 2006
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The city government aims to double the efficiency of public buses and make them less crowded during rush hour by adding public-bus-only traffic lanes and rebuilding terminal stations by 2010, traffic engineers said yesterday.

The city plans to create 300 kilometers of bus-only traffic lanes over the next several years. Currently, there are only about 30 kilometers of bus-only lanes in the city.

It also plans to reconstruct 60 percent of the local terminal bus stations so buses won't block traffic while picking up passengers.

"Hopefully, the plan will double the speed of numbered buses and make them less crowded during rush hour," Cai Yifeng, a city planner with the Shanghai Transportation Planning Institute, said yesterday.

He said both measures aim to improve the efficiency of public road transport, which handles 7 million passengers every day on average, more than four times the number of people who use subways.

Some of the new lanes will be created by widening roads while others will be obtained by the re-arrangement of existing roads.

Public buses run at an average speed of 10 kilometers and hour during rush hour in downtown. The government plans to lift that speed to 18 to 20 kilometers per hour before 2010, officials said.

"When buses move faster, they will also become less crowded as they will be more efficient," he said.

Most of the bus lanes will be set up on major arteries, such as Zhaojiabang Road, Xizang Road M. and Zhongshan Road S., according to the Shanghai Urban Planning Administrative Bureau.

Construction of some 25 kilometers of new lanes is now planned.

"Public buses are always slowed down on streets by the increasing number of private vehicles," said Chen Youhua, an engineer with the bureau.

Another major task is to renovate 60 percent of the city's more than 900 terminal bus stations and moving them closer to subway stations.

Currently, buses block traffic when they stop to pick up passengers at many terminal bus stations.

The government now plans to create space off to the side of the road, so buses can stop without blocking cars behind them. That plan can only be used on wide streets, however.
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Old March 4th, 2006, 02:38 PM   #213
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What a huge undertaking!
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Old March 5th, 2006, 12:23 AM   #214
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Thanks for great news on bus expansion from Shanghai, Hkskyline. Shanghai is quickly becoming one of the leaders in mass transit worldwide!
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Old March 5th, 2006, 12:41 AM   #215
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great examples for other cities
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Old March 5th, 2006, 08:30 AM   #216
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Great Mayor?? A trolley killer

I can assure you none of these is going to materialize.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 05:58 PM   #217
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Shanghai maglev

many shanghai and its maglev aerial photos
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Old April 16th, 2006, 06:31 PM   #218
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shanghai's maglev looks amazing.. very high tech!! and the city itself, hmmm.. very interesting! i remember when i went to shanghai for the first time in 2002, it already showed to me the traces of such an ultra modern city and the maglev hasn't been built completely, only the rails and foundation... keep on going shanghai!!

*btw, does shanghai's maglev only connect downtown with pudong airport?
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Old April 16th, 2006, 06:42 PM   #219
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If it does, how long is the trace and how much it takes to get from the station to the aiport?
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Old April 16th, 2006, 07:34 PM   #220
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