daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Subways and Urban Transport

Subways and Urban Transport Metros, subways, light rail, trams, buses and other local transport systems



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old August 2nd, 2013, 08:45 AM   #2741
kunming tiger
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: kunming
Posts: 7,029
Likes (Received): 1664

and the estimated length at the end of 2013?
kunming tiger no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old August 2nd, 2013, 09:46 AM   #2742
big-dog
Registered User
 
big-dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,080
Likes (Received): 6840

567 km (including maglev 29.11km)

source
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
big-dog no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd, 2013, 10:05 AM   #2743
Alargule
Res Uder et Siger
 
Alargule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 8,202
Likes (Received): 2079

51.6 km for line 16? Given the small amount of stations, it looks like this will be more like a suburban line?
Alargule no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd, 2013, 10:24 AM   #2744
big-dog
Registered User
 
big-dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,080
Likes (Received): 6840

yes it does. It connects Longyang Hub to the port.
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
big-dog no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd, 2013, 11:49 AM   #2745
chornedsnorkack
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,973
Likes (Received): 388

Quote:
Originally Posted by big-dog View Post
yes it does. It connects Longyang Hub to the port.
Why should line 16 be metro and line 22 be suburban railway, and not both metros or both suburban railways?
chornedsnorkack no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd, 2013, 06:29 PM   #2746
big-dog
Registered User
 
big-dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,080
Likes (Received): 6840

Line 22 is using existing rail and Line 16 is the fresh built line.
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
big-dog no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd, 2013, 08:31 PM   #2747
saiho
Registered User
 
saiho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: 多伦多/多倫多
Posts: 1,357
Likes (Received): 1287

Line 16 is a fully grade separated line built from scratch (think Tsukuba Express)
Line 22 is a service overlaid on existing nation railway tracks (JR)
saiho no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 4th, 2013, 08:33 AM   #2748
_Night City Dream_
Registered User
 
_Night City Dream_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 19,086
Likes (Received): 101416

Quote:
Originally Posted by big-dog View Post
Luoshan Road Station (U/C) tracks

Line 16: 3rd level
Line 11: 2nd level



by metrofans
That's a very interesting picture. I've always dreamt that Shanghai could boast some of what Tokyo can: trains seen in different directions with interchanges at different levels, just like cars on the roads.

how long will be the trains on line 16? What type?

And a question about line 11. As I know, the rolling stock there now is Siemens trains equal to those on line 4. What rolling stock will be purchased as the addition to serve the extension. Will that be the same or something new?

I see that the stock on line 16 will be totally different from all what Shanghai metro has, including that on line 13 even.
__________________
Big Cities is one of the major inventions by human beings

My Baku / Мой Баку / 我的巴库


forumaniac, Zaz965 liked this post
_Night City Dream_ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 4th, 2013, 05:56 PM   #2749
saiho
Registered User
 
saiho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: 多伦多/多倫多
Posts: 1,357
Likes (Received): 1287

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Night City Dream_ View Post
That's a very interesting picture. I've always dreamt that Shanghai could boast some of what Tokyo can: trains seen in different directions with interchanges at different levels, just like cars on the roads.

how long will be the trains on line 16? What type?

And a question about line 11. As I know, the rolling stock there now is Siemens trains equal to those on line 4. What rolling stock will be purchased as the addition to serve the extension. Will that be the same or something new?

I see that the stock on line 16 will be totally different from all what Shanghai metro has, including that on line 13 even.
Line 16 will use 3 car A size trains in the begining with provision for 6 cars. Funny you say line 16's rolling stock is totally different from what the shanghai metro has because they are just modified Siemens trains with 3 doors more seats and 3rd rail supply.
saiho no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 4th, 2013, 06:35 PM   #2750
silent_dragon
What a wonderful world
 
silent_dragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 146
Likes (Received): 46

is it too short to have only 3-car train?
silent_dragon no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 4th, 2013, 09:36 PM   #2751
drunkenmunkey888
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 921
Likes (Received): 53

Quote:
Originally Posted by saiho View Post
Line 16 will use 3 car A size trains in the begining with provision for 6 cars. Funny you say line 16's rolling stock is totally different from what the shanghai metro has because they are just modified Siemens trains with 3 doors more seats and 3rd rail supply.
Aren't they wider also? 3.2m width instead of 3.0m?
drunkenmunkey888 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2013, 12:34 AM   #2752
Silly_Walks
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,974
Likes (Received): 836

Quote:
Originally Posted by saiho View Post
and 3rd rail supply.
Why did they go for 3rd rail in this case?
Silly_Walks no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2013, 07:42 AM   #2753
_Night City Dream_
Registered User
 
_Night City Dream_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 19,086
Likes (Received): 101416

Quote:
Originally Posted by saiho View Post
Line 16 will use 3 car A size trains in the begining with provision for 6 cars. Funny you say line 16's rolling stock is totally different from what the shanghai metro has because they are just modified Siemens trains with 3 doors more seats and 3rd rail supply.
Are you sure these will be Siemens trains?

What trains has line 13 got? They seem to be different from all what runs in Shanghai.
__________________
Big Cities is one of the major inventions by human beings

My Baku / Мой Баку / 我的巴库


Highcliff, forumaniac, Zaz965 liked this post
_Night City Dream_ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #2754
VECTROTALENZIS
★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★
 
VECTROTALENZIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sweden
Posts: 4,236
Likes (Received): 4433

So what are the coming openings from today to one year ahead?
VECTROTALENZIS no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #2755
Highcliff
Fake democracy
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: São Paulo
Posts: 7,384
Likes (Received): 5011

Quote:
Originally Posted by big-dog View Post
567 km (including maglev 29.11km)

source
Highcliff no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 6th, 2013, 10:23 AM   #2756
big-dog
Registered User
 
big-dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,080
Likes (Received): 6840

Quote:
Originally Posted by VECTROTALENZIS View Post
So what are the coming openings from today to one year ahead?
Coming openings:

2013

Line 11 east extension: 22.8km
Line 11 west extension: 5.7km
Line 12 phase I: 17.9km (est.)
Line 16 phase I: 51.8km

2014

Line 13 Phase I east section: Jinshajiang Rd to Nanjing Rd West (est.)
Line 16 Last piece: Luoshan rd to Longyang Rd

2015

Line 11 to Disneyland
Line 12 Phase II: West of Qufu Rd Station (est.)
Line 13 phase II (est.)
__________________

_Night City Dream_, Highcliff liked this post
big-dog no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 6th, 2013, 11:48 AM   #2757
_Night City Dream_
Registered User
 
_Night City Dream_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 19,086
Likes (Received): 101416

As I can guess, Disneyland will open its doors kin 2015 as well? Is there a tread on it, by the way?
__________________
Big Cities is one of the major inventions by human beings

My Baku / Мой Баку / 我的巴库


Highcliff, forumaniac, Zaz965 liked this post
_Night City Dream_ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 6th, 2013, 09:07 PM   #2758
hmmwv
Registered User
 
hmmwv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 2,391
Likes (Received): 420

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Night City Dream_ View Post
As I can guess, Disneyland will open its doors kin 2015 as well? Is there a tread on it, by the way?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...ght=disneyland

and

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...ght=disneyland
__________________
The building under construction next to Shanghai Tower is Oriental Financial Center. The "plot" next to Jinmao is reserved green belt and no skyscraper will be built there.
hmmwv no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 7th, 2013, 05:40 AM   #2759
Nouvellecosse
~ Mysterious Entity ~
 
Nouvellecosse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Halifax, N.S.
Posts: 4,446
Likes (Received): 313

Seems to have a huge metro system but does it also have huge amounts of separate commuter rail like Tokyo does?
__________________
.
.
I always think of a new type of cologne brand when I see your name

"Nouvellecosse, by Calvin Klein. Take on the world!"

- MysticMcGoo
Nouvellecosse no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 7th, 2013, 06:31 AM   #2760
big-dog
Registered User
 
big-dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,080
Likes (Received): 6840

No. Shanghai will build more suburban metro lines (i.e. line 16) to serve the purpose.
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
big-dog no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
metro, shanghai, tram

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium