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Old January 22nd, 2014, 09:34 PM   #3061
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By the way, shmetro.com is outdated now. No line 12 and 16 are present.
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 04:17 AM   #3062
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Its Chinese site is up to date (http://114.80.218.33/yxxlt/index.htm) but English site is not
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 08:34 AM   #3063
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What about Shanghai in 2014?
Now it's clear that Shanghai will only have 10km openings in 2014.
  • Line 16: 2 stations, Huaxia Middle Rd - Longyang Rd
  • Line 13: 3 stations, Longde Rd - Changshou Rd
  • Line 12: 1 station, Qufu Rd station

This gives Beijing a good chance to get closer to Shanghai in metro mileage.
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 08:38 AM   #3064
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Wow, Virginia will have more new km in openings in 2014 than Shanghai
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 01:17 PM   #3065
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But then in 2015 it will be a big addition again:
line 8
line 10
line 11
line 12
line 13
line 16
and even (maybe) lines 5 and 14 too
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 07:03 PM   #3066
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But then in 2015 it will be a big addition again:
line 8
line 10
line 11
line 12
line 13
line 16
and even (maybe) lines 5 and 14 too

In 2015 how many more kilometers will be added to the Metro?
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Old January 26th, 2014, 09:27 PM   #3067
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Shanghai Metro Line 14 will start construction this year.

The planners have gotten smart line will use 8A cars.

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Old January 27th, 2014, 07:23 PM   #3068
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Yes, they're getting smart, indeed.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #3069
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Wow, Virginia will have more new km in openings in 2014 than Shanghai
14 km is still too much compraing to almost all metros over the world.

Moscow, even after Sobyanin coming to power and speeding up its metro construction, still can't reach even this figure per year. Given the fact that it is the fastest growing system in Europe now.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 07:32 PM   #3070
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Shanghai Metro Line 14 will start construction this year.

The planners have gotten smart line will use 8A cars.

Isn't there a mistake with line 16 in the West?
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Old January 28th, 2014, 12:49 AM   #3071
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Isn't there a mistake with line 16 in the West?
The map was printed before planners switched priorities to opening new suburban lines instead of circumferential lines. Today's Line 16 and 17 used to be called lines 21 and 20 respectively. The Lines 17 and 16 you see on the map is now called 20 and 21.
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Old January 28th, 2014, 10:59 AM   #3072
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Line 14 looks like it would connect to a lot of lines. Maybe that would help towards releaving some of the busier transfer points?
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Old January 28th, 2014, 12:47 PM   #3073
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Line 14 looks like it would connect to a lot of lines. Maybe that would help towards releaving some of the busier transfer points?
Line 14 can really relieve Line 2.
Line 2 is bursting between People Square - East Nanjing Road - Lujiazui at rush hour (7.45am - 9.15am and 5.15pm - 6.45pm)
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Old January 28th, 2014, 03:31 PM   #3074
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How long is it supposed to be?
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Old January 31st, 2014, 07:33 AM   #3075
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Line 14 can really relieve Line 2.
Line 2 is bursting between People Square - East Nanjing Road - Lujiazui at rush hour (7.45am - 9.15am and 5.15pm - 6.45pm)
Well they can push the frequency from every 3 min per train to 2.5min (Limit of signaling system). That's a 20% increase in capacity. If they upgrade the signalling system to push the headway down to about every 2 min then that is a 33% increase in capacity.
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 09:51 AM   #3076
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What's the problem with signaling system? Moscow has intervals of 90-95 seconds during rush hour and all trains are almost always on time, accuracy is 99%.
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Old February 5th, 2014, 06:47 PM   #3077
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Here is a video I shot and edited of the Shanghai maglev. Please watch.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83TVw2CJxhk
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Old February 5th, 2014, 10:02 PM   #3078
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That's the best video of Shanghai Maglev I've ever seen!

You spotted it from the angles I've wanted for so long.

Very good job and thank you.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 07:19 AM   #3079
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What's the problem with signaling system? Moscow has intervals of 90-95 seconds during rush hour and all trains are almost always on time, accuracy is 99%.
On old 1st gen lines (1, 2, 3 and 4) the signalling system can only handle up to 2.5 min per train. Also, today china designs their lines to max out at 30 trains per hour (2 min per train), even with the fancy CBTC systems they are putting in. They have given up on the concept of very high frequency trains. Which I think is a good move. The "small groups, small intervals" (small trains + very high frequency) craze was a poison in metro planning in china back in the day. It was instrumental in creating the shanghai line 6 4C sets, the 4B wuhan Line 1, the old 3B setup in guangzhou Line 3 and the original 4BL setups of Lines 5 and 6. Now they are moving to adjusting train size to design for demand instead of optimizing frequency. Hence the appearance of larger and larger rolling stock (A trains starting to be ubiquitous).
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I mean many lines in Shanghai being served by A trains still can't meet the demand successfully. Why not to reduce intervals there, too?
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