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Old September 29th, 2015, 09:53 AM   #3461
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I wonder why this subway does not run until 2 to 3 am at night...do they need all night for track maintenance?
It would mean more employment for night shift drivers, security personnel, as well as more revenue for the operator (unless the system runs at a loss...)
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Old September 29th, 2015, 09:46 PM   #3462
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I wonder why this subway does not run until 2 to 3 am at night...do they need all night for track maintenance?
It would mean more employment for night shift drivers, security personnel, as well as more revenue for the operator (unless the system runs at a loss...)
It is already running at a deficit.
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Old September 30th, 2015, 04:23 AM   #3463
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I wonder why this subway does not run until 2 to 3 am at night...do they need all night for track maintenance?
It would mean more employment for night shift drivers, security personnel, as well as more revenue for the operator (unless the system runs at a loss...)
Most subway systems run at a loss.
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Old October 1st, 2015, 08:37 PM   #3464
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Most subway systems run at a loss.
How many subway systems actually make money? To my knowledge there is only 1. That is Singapore MRT. Maybe Hong Kong as well?
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 12:20 AM   #3465
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How many subway systems actually make money? To my knowledge there is only 1. That is Singapore MRT. Maybe Hong Kong as well?
Hong Kong has the highest cost recovery in the world at 180%.

There is also Tokyo Metro, Osaka Subway, Taipei MRT that run at a profit.
I heard the London Underground, Moscow Metro and Delhi Metro run at almost break even.
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 02:40 AM   #3466
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If we expand the terms to all rapid transit instead of just underground trains, a lot if not most of the systems in Japan's 2 main metropolitan areas have a fairbox ratio above 100%. The Tokyo metro and Osaka subway are both above Singapore. Hong Kong's is the most profitable though.

When you include the entire companies finances, than basically every rail company in Japan makes profits...but that includes real estate (renting station property to commercial users) etc.
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 03:44 PM   #3467
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In the mentioned above cities fares are quite high. In Shanghai they are relatively low.
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 03:48 PM   #3468
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Hong Kong has the highest cost recovery in the world at 180%.

There is also Tokyo Metro, Osaka Subway, Taipei MRT that run at a profit.
I heard the London Underground, Moscow Metro and Delhi Metro run at almost break even.
Moscow used to be. Now fares are lowered to encourage people to use it even more, so it doesn't make any profit. But there's talk of changing the business paradigm of the management.
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 04:23 PM   #3469
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In the mentioned above cities fares are quite high. In Shanghai they are relatively low.
If I remember well Singapore's fares are actually very low. They make money of renting out commercial space and other secondary activities.
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Old October 3rd, 2015, 12:27 AM   #3470
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Really? As i remember it - Singapore was pretty expensive, but you are right, after London everything is cheap... relatively.. :P
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Old October 3rd, 2015, 06:44 AM   #3471
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Really? As i remember it - Singapore was pretty expensive, but you are right, after London everything is cheap... relatively.. :P
Fares on MRT are pretty similar to Chinese cities. Much cheaper than anywehere in Europe and cheaper than Hong Kong.
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Old November 30th, 2015, 01:56 AM   #3472
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Old November 30th, 2015, 09:59 PM   #3473
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Museum???
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Old December 1st, 2015, 06:49 AM   #3474
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Museum???
That is an exhibition of railway
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Old December 1st, 2015, 12:45 PM   #3475
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LSE Cities has put this transport infrastructure map of Shanghai together from various sources. It represents a big change from the one drawn 10 years ago. Any suggestions on improvements or corrections welcome:

https://urbanage.lsecities.net/data/...ility-shanghai
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Old December 1st, 2015, 04:00 PM   #3476
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LSE Cities has put this transport infrastructure map of Shanghai together from various sources. It represents a big change from the one drawn 10 years ago. Any suggestions on improvements or corrections welcome:

https://urbanage.lsecities.net/data/...ility-shanghai
Line 3 and 6 is not drawn properly.
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 03:22 PM   #3477
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Shanghai’s metro progress is no-doubt extraordinary. I’ve only three questions –

1) I heard in future, there is a plan to connect Shanghai metro with Suzhou metro & Wuxi Metro. Is it true? If yes, then what are the distances of Suzhou & Wuxi from Shanghai?

2) If they will connect, will they use interurban metro line like Guangfo (connecting Guangzhou & Foshan)? Or particular some Shanglai metro lines will be extended further to connect those towns?

3) I also heard within 10 years total route lingth of Shaghai metro will be 800 Kms, and Shangai will also construct an 800 Kms tram network. Are these true? If yes, please try to post some such future networks map or some detail information.
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 09:26 PM   #3478
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Too much progress... 30 years ago there were few stations see wiki
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Old December 4th, 2015, 07:41 AM   #3479
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New 35km-long Metro Line 17 is being built as part of Shanghai's 12th Five-Year Plan and is expected to start operations by 2018.

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Old December 4th, 2015, 08:55 AM   #3480
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Line 8 in the picture.

As I can understand, line 17 will be mostly an on ground one.
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